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21 Jul 2013, 9:32 pm

How dare they? Excuse the fact they may be our biggest suppliers, who wants them trading with us if they're gonna go and take mass credit including donations, don't see how this is fair and just considering that over time all our own donations to our own country have come to a standstill. What of us I say, rather than what of them.
I'd rather we do our bidding elsewhere and than take the whole of the e.u with us, bring back the common market and let us rig our own status quo.

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/japan- ... 19602.html



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24 Jul 2013, 11:16 am

I wouldn't be quite so quick to criticise Japan - their economy is starting to recover for the first time since 2011, and it's looking increasingly likely that the very conservative Shinzo Abe is to remain in power; he's already won the majority of the Upper House - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23401469 - and his strategy to push up local taxes means that Japan's exports (its lynchpin to the rest of the world) is all the more important. I'd be living in Cloud Cuckooland if I believed true altruism was political/economic motivation but that said, I believe Japan must be onto something if the recently reinstated Rudd of Australia is echoing the same message: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/2 ... 1L20130723

My opinion is that in today's world of multi-national corporations and globalisation, it's not very wise to cut one off entirely from rest of the world's economy. Granted, the Euro has been a prime example of why complete union leads to an unmitigated disaster (I'd hate to be Angela Merkhel these days), but at the same time, no man is an island...



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24 Jul 2013, 11:33 am

I would frankly tell them to get stuffed.

They told us to join the euro, too. Heaven knows what would have happened had we took their advice.



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24 Jul 2013, 3:45 pm

BlankCanvas wrote:
I wouldn't be quite so quick to criticise Japan - their economy is starting to recover for the first time since 2011, and it's looking increasingly likely that the very conservative Shinzo Abe is to remain in power; he's already won the majority of the Upper House - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23401469 - and his strategy to push up local taxes means that Japan's exports (its lynchpin to the rest of the world) is all the more important. I'd be living in Cloud Cuckooland if I believed true altruism was political/economic motivation but that said, I believe Japan must be onto something if the recently reinstated Rudd of Australia is echoing the same message: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/2 ... 1L20130723

My opinion is that in today's world of multi-national corporations and globalisation, it's not very wise to cut one off entirely from rest of the world's economy. Granted, the Euro has been a prime example of why complete union leads to an unmitigated disaster (I'd hate to be Angela Merkhel these days), but at the same time, no man is an island...


Yeah well, its in my critical opinion of much of the e.u i'm afraid. I just hope Americas new oil industries can comply with manufacturing fair trading laws, and if need be create another 'Eden' project over here, whereby we can trade with the U.s in exchange for say half of their colonies of oils for fairer road and transport deals, create a multi-million or billion exchange link for eco fuel served on the grounds of national and global success chains for newer and better interconnections, whilst we inherit their oil supply they would calmly find a new way of bettering and serving their countries oil supply. thus limiting damage to the atmosphere hence creating vaster fuel allowances over here caused by an unnecessary change to our climates solar and eco drainage system.
Im not passing the buck I just wanted to stress the importance of not playing down the G20 summit meetings with environmental leaders at the price of not petrol but endangered species, like salmon and whales and such and our global climate database of which we currently reside with them. Take away our zoos and we'll change global warming in a way that cant serve humanity at all.



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11 Aug 2013, 9:20 pm

BlankCanvas wrote:
I wouldn't be quite so quick to criticise Japan - their economy is starting to recover for the first time since 2011, and it's looking increasingly likely that the very conservative Shinzo Abe is to remain in power; he's already won the majority of the Upper House - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23401469 - and his strategy to push up local taxes means that Japan's exports (its lynchpin to the rest of the world) is all the more important. I'd be living in Cloud Cuckooland if I believed true altruism was political/economic motivation but that said, I believe Japan must be onto something if the recently reinstated Rudd of Australia is echoing the same message: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/2 ... 1L20130723

My opinion is that in today's world of multi-national corporations and globalisation, it's not very wise to cut one off entirely from rest of the world's economy. Granted, the Euro has been a prime example of why complete union leads to an unmitigated disaster (I'd hate to be Angela Merkhel these days), but at the same time, no man is an island...


Dead cat bounce, they have had them for many years now :roll: (and conservatives say France is rubbish :roll: )

Perhaps if they where not so racist they could have a open borders immigration policy to fill in the gaps what is the average age in that country 95 ?


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11 Aug 2013, 9:32 pm

Tequila wrote:
I would frankly tell them to get stuffed.

They told us to join the euro, too. Heaven knows what would have happened had we took their advice.


Oh I see now ,when things are going well it has nothing to do with the EU, when things go pear shape it's all the fault of those euro weenies who base themselves in that faux country . Never mind that it wasn't a good idea to buy houses on credit cards just ask the Germans about that one :wink:

Back in the 90's I didn't buy in to it when the sleaze merchant aka the Blaire ri$ch project came pout with his cool Britannia sell, ,I knew the $%^& would hit the fan sooner or latter (it helped Jamie Oliver I guess good luck to him)

Cool Britiania , more like broke Briatania.

Celtic Tiger, more like a starven alley cat.


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12 Aug 2013, 6:24 am

The European Union was first put together not as a community, not as an economic region, but as an agreement between 6 countries that there would not be another war on mainland Europe - Britain was invited to join but the post-WW2 Labour Government declined to join.

The EU has slowly evolved from a peace pact, through a European Marketplace in the 1970s - when Ted Heath got us in to the EU - to the current political monster of today.

During this time Britain has gone from being an Empire of 51 countries to a Commonwealth of 54 countries; a member of NATO; special relationship with America at political, intelligence and economic levels; member of the European Union of 20 odd countries.

Despite a worldwide recession Britain is still the 5th richest country in the world and this is because we are a worldwide trading hub.

Whether or not we are in the EU was a relevant question in the 1970s but the world has changed in the last 40 years and we are now part of a Global Economy, in which we are a major player.



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12 Aug 2013, 5:03 pm

^^^^

5 th you say ? not per capita especially so these days, even France and Australia beat you their.

Not that it's something to boast about I really recent paying $9 + for a pint of real ale (why I homebrew) since Australia has dev the "rip off culture" in the last 10 years or so I do expect the merde to hit the fan here to , sooner rather than latter


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12 Aug 2013, 5:09 pm

I even have relatives in "expensive" Switzerland complain how expensive it is here I think they may be right , though I think it's more poor value in that regard, at least in Switzerland you know often it's going to be the best of the best eg public transport , it's amazing!


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12 Aug 2013, 6:16 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
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5 th you say ? not per capita especially so these days, even France and Australia beat you their.

Not that it's something to boast about I really recent paying $9 + for a pint of real ale (why I homebrew) since Australia has dev the "rip off culture" in the last 10 years or so I do expect the merde to hit the fan here to , sooner rather than latter


$9 for a pint of ale? Like in a bar? That ain't right...