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30 Sep 2013, 8:00 pm

I don't know, it seems the Italian justice system is determined to keep retrying her until they get their desired result [life sentence in solitary confinement]. why is Amanda Knox so hated in Italy? is she their version of OJ?



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30 Sep 2013, 8:51 pm

Italian Prosecutor Giuliano Mignini is a lunatic who sees witches behind every door and Satan under his bed. :roll:

Unfortunately, the European Press has yellow-journalized the whole case from day 1, with Mignini's lurid theories of Satanic sex rituals and apparently both the police and the populace there place much less value on forensic evidence and science than Americans do. So it seems to be "common knowledge" over there that Knox is a bloodthirsty homicidal siren, even though there was never any actual evidence to support that hysterical conjecture and Rudy Guede has already admitted to being present at the time of the murder and left bloody fingerprints and DNA all over the place.



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30 Sep 2013, 8:56 pm

it is like a witch hunt. only they have their witch and are determined to let her have it.



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02 Oct 2013, 5:24 am

when you read through all the detail you can't say you are sure she is innocent though can you? deffo some detail there that makes me think she was involved.

Additional - she is fit too!



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02 Oct 2013, 6:22 am

It makes no difference. Knox is not there.



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02 Oct 2013, 6:30 am

ruveyn wrote:
It makes no difference. Knox is not there.


If she needs a shoulder to cry on though, I am always available!



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02 Oct 2013, 7:08 am

auntblabby wrote:
I don't know, it seems the Italian justice system is determined to keep retrying her until they get their desired result [life sentence in solitary confinement]. why is Amanda Knox so hated in Italy? is she their version of OJ?


I followed this case and agree that the evidence against Amanda Knox didn't warrant her being incarcerated. She will not attend any retrial, however if she is found guilty then the Italian courts will begin an application to extradite her from the US.

So does Amanda Knox have anything to worry about? there remain three unusual unanswered questions from the case

- firstly Amanda Knox was found to have cannabis in her blood stream when she allegedly came back to her boyfriend's house and people attest that she was high as a kite. In that state it's highly unlikely a person would clean a kitchen then move Meridith Kercher's body and clean the bathroom with bleach? why didn't she call the police first? why the need to use bleach to clean the bathroom? this seemed like suspicious behavior for somebody who was supposed to be hungover and tired?

- Knox seemed preoccupied to accuse her employer Patrick Lumumba with the murder claiming he killed Kercher while having sex. She later recanted the claim when it became apparent her testimony could only be true if she was in the house at exactly the same time and therefore was self incriminating. She later changed her story claiming the police forced her to make the claim which the police deny?

- Although Knox's DNA was not found in the vicinity her boyfriend's DNA was found on Meridith Kercher's bra strap which seems strange?.

- What perhaps incriminated Knox the most is her inconsistency and changing her testimony during the trial. She behaved according to the judge as somebody with something to hide. I think this is why the Italian courts want to have another look. Honestly I think the case is such a mess it might never really be solved.



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02 Oct 2013, 8:02 am

I suspect that someone in Italy is up for re-election.



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02 Oct 2013, 4:24 pm

ruveyn wrote:
It makes no difference. Knox is not there.

she can be extradited per treaty.



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05 Oct 2013, 8:18 pm

The bathroom had a bowel movement in the toilet, and a bloody footprint on the floor.

The initial report said that Meredith Kircher was raped and killed in her bedroom by at least two people, possibly three, that she was killed while being raped.

Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito had admittedly been doing hashish for hours.

One reason the Italians loathe her is because of Ms. Knox's behavior.....doing exercises and cartwheels at the police station, no tears or sympathy for her friend.

Police said they saw no sight of shock or fear or grief.

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05 Oct 2013, 8:21 pm

come to think of it, she does seem a bit sociopathic. :chin:



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05 Oct 2013, 9:55 pm

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The bathroom had a bowel movement in the toilet, and a bloody footprint on the floor.

The initial report said that Meredith Kircher was raped and killed in her bedroom by at least two people, possibly three, that she was killed while being raped.

Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito had admittedly been doing hashish for hours.

One reason the Italians loathe her is because of Ms. Knox's behavior.....doing exercises and cartwheels at the police station, no tears or sympathy for her friend.

Police said they saw no sight of shock or fear or grief.

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All circumstantial evidence. However it appears the Italian police are not satisfied that her role has been thoroughly investigated and they are justified in re-opening the case and presenting any evidence to the US government. It's then up to the US courts to decide if she can be extradited by the Italians.



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07 Oct 2013, 3:58 am

auntblabby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
It makes no difference. Knox is not there.

she can be extradited per treaty.
im sure if the trial starts looking bad her parents will give her a one way plane ticket to a country that does not extridite to europe.
like any country in south america because europe was so ruthless when they colonized


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07 Oct 2013, 4:14 am

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it’s more complicated than you might think because of differences in Italian and United States law. But in general “America’s extradition treaty with Italy prohibits the US from extraditing someone who has been acquitted.”


As long as she stays in the U.S then she is fine



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07 Oct 2013, 8:31 am

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it’s more complicated than you might think because of differences in Italian and United States law. But in general “America’s extradition treaty with Italy prohibits the US from extraditing someone who has been acquitted.”


As long as she stays in the U.S then she is fine
not necasarily.had she first been aquited i would say that the american consulate would never extridite an american who had been already aquited because of double jeopardy.however though the vacation of her conviction happened at the appealate level and in the U.S appealate courts order a re trial more often than a bench aquital.so where she is in the legal system is somewhat paralel to where she would be in our system at this point.
A good Italian lawyer who intensley studies the american legal system could make a compelling arguement to convince the american conculate to extridite.if i was amanda i would take an extended vacation in uraguay


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07 Oct 2013, 8:53 am

Don't we have an extradition treaty with Italy? Suppose she is convicted again? Is the U.S. obliged to deliver her to the Italian authorities?

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