Un Freaking Believable!! !!

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see this please: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... vices.html

Now you know why I hate government as much as I do.

ruveyn

I don't understand why she was not allowed to go to term.I thought c-sections were only done when a natural birth was not possible.Since she had family they should have been notified.
This is just ridiculous.

Well, I will quote you with your own words.

...what.

I am skeptical. The Telegraph is only news source reporting this. No Italian news outlet is reporting it and all the other places that have picked it up just point back to the Telegraph. It's as bad as the Daily Mail when it comes to reporting legit news - it doesn't.

If true, it's absolutely reprehensible. But I won't jump on the anti-government band wagon just yet till social services try s**t like this in America.

It's not like Social Workers in the UK have the power to go around ordering caesarean sections.

In this case, the almost full-term pregnant woman was detained under the Mental Health Act for five weeks, because she had had an acute psychotic breakdown caused by failing to take her meds for bipolar.

Essex County Council then began the process of deciding whether or not the child should remain with the mother (and whether the child would be at risk) and whether the mother could see the pregnancy full term without injuring herself or her child.

When they decided that this was not an acceptable risk to take, they applied to the High Court, which -- after carefully summing up all the evidence, pro and con -- issued a Court Order allowing Essex to take this action.

It hardly needs to be said that such cases are so rare as to be almost unheard-of. I don't think there has been a directly comparable case since the 1950s

This is unprecedented and has caused a lot of concern here. It's definitely not the norm. Having worked for social services in the UK, I can guarantee that this procedure (if it did happen), would not have been granted without various psychiatric reports, supporting the wishes of the social services dept. There was a court order and there must have been significant evidence supporting it too. Doing anything against a person's wishes is very difficult indeed, even if there is serious concerns for their mental health or the safety of a child.

We had service users (a mother and son with dementia and a learning disability) who were evicted from their property, solely because they were due benefits, but refused to claim them and we couldn't force them. A simple measure could have solved the problem, but they were deemed to be capable of making the decision on their own, even though it was obvious to everyone that their decision was detrimental to themselves.

Not quite 'unprecedented'. I had a dim memory of a similar case occurring in the 1950s, but a bit of research has shown up a case that happened as recently as 1998!

http://www.sheilakitzinger.com/Articles ... pt1998.htm

If this summary is correct, Essex County Council could be in for some serious s**t over what it's done to this poor woman.

What about the judge and psychiatrists who agreed and allowed it to happen? And that's not to mention the doctor who carried out the c-section, when there were no physical medical grounds making it a necessity. I'm sure nobody was holding a gun to their head. Social services were the ones who requested it, but there are many more people involved in this, all with more power than them.

Mostly government sh**.

remember, government is the enemy. It has the guns and it has the will to deprive you of what is rightfully yours.

ruveyn

I don't happen to share such an extreme belief position, but considering the numbers of Americans who evidently do, it never ceases to amaze me that the Republican Party has not been supplanted by a popular anarchist party.

I had two c-sections.And I still don't get why she had to be subjected to this if she could have delivered at term,it's safer for the baby and mom.

Agreed. My daughter was a c section baby, and my wife and I made the decision for the caesarian with our baby doctor only after we learned the medical necessity for it. It was not a decision we made lightly.

Anarchism? That "cure" is worse than the disease. If we only had a functioning libertarian party.

It seems the American public likes receiving crumbs from the government. Too bad the government takes their loaf.

ruveyn

Maybe because I don't have much of a loaf to take, but I don't really feel anything taken from me at all.