Pope Francis Will Create Commitee On Clerical Child Abuse

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05 Dec 2013, 2:32 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/06/world ... .html?_r=0

One word...FINALLY!


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05 Dec 2013, 2:52 pm

Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.



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05 Dec 2013, 2:53 pm

Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


John 23 beat him to it.

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05 Dec 2013, 3:17 pm

If a bishop views it as 'sexual sin,' like a priest having an affair with an adult, then you can see how the whole mindset of, well, let's send the priest off for rehabilitation, let's try and keep it quiet, etc., kicks in.

If it's instead viewed as an abuse scandal, then it's more likely the church will focus on the prime task of protecting future children, as well as decently responding to current abuse victims.

And asking the question, Is it abuse? will also help with bad situations where an adult is abused, like where a priest exploits a counseling relationship, something like that.



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05 Dec 2013, 3:59 pm

I'm listening to the CNN report on this subject, even as I clicked on this thread.


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05 Dec 2013, 4:59 pm

Hmmm. I say, let's start with examining the lives of our cardinals and bishops. Because most priests are holy and good men.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:13 pm

It's about time, so far he's been a hippie-pope while ignoring the Elephant in the room.

No one cares about feeding the poor at midnight while kids are abused, it's just Glory hounding. Instead of chasing popularity, he can do the job Benedict left him.

I'm a Catholic, and I honestly wonder if my priest is a pervert. All we want is a clean house, the Pope has one task...he either get's rid of the boy chasing sodomites...or ends up yet another pimp-pope.

How about any accusations, gets on a priests permanent record and people can access it. If they can take confessions and secrecy, why can't we know if they are predators?


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05 Dec 2013, 5:57 pm

Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


God forgive me for this, but Francis is an idiot...and I'm a Catholic who's saying this. He's the last pope the Church needed. He can make all of the committees he wants to (and I'm not saying this committee on clerical child abuse or whatever the hell it is is a bad thing), but it's not changing my opinion on the man. He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.



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05 Dec 2013, 6:10 pm

DarkRain wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


God forgive me for this, but Francis is an idiot...and I'm a Catholic who's saying this. He's the last pope the Church needed. He can make all of the committees he wants to (and I'm not saying this committee on clerical child abuse or whatever the hell it is is a bad thing), but it's not changing my opinion on the man. He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.


Huh? He's a Marxist for warning people about the soul destroying danger of greed that accompanies unrestrained capitalism?
Another radical produced by Catholicism (even though he and the church would have a parting), Martin Luther, had said God gave property to Christians so they could help others.


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05 Dec 2013, 6:51 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
DarkRain wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


God forgive me for this, but Francis is an idiot...and I'm a Catholic who's saying this. He's the last pope the Church needed. He can make all of the committees he wants to (and I'm not saying this committee on clerical child abuse or whatever the hell it is is a bad thing), but it's not changing my opinion on the man. He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.


Huh? He's a Marxist for warning people about the soul destroying danger of greed that accompanies unrestrained capitalism?
Another radical produced by Catholicism (even though he and the church would have a parting), Martin Luther, had said God gave property to Christians so they could help others.


Yes, when we have children being raped....he's got messed up priories. What part of the bible addresses "soul destroying danger of greed that accompanies unrestrained capitalism?" :roll: It's assine political statements like you made that makes Catholic's distrust their pope....anything other than cleaning up the boy-humpers is BS at at this time. I'll not give another red cent to the Church, until I see evidence that he's working for God. As of now I see no signs he's a good guy...just a enabler of rapists.

Every second, he wastes not saving kids...he helps rapists. Putting politics before people, before children makes him a Marxist.


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05 Dec 2013, 9:37 pm

AutisticMillionaire wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DarkRain wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


God forgive me for this, but Francis is an idiot...and I'm a Catholic who's saying this. He's the last pope the Church needed. He can make all of the committees he wants to (and I'm not saying this committee on clerical child abuse or whatever the hell it is is a bad thing), but it's not changing my opinion on the man. He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.


Huh? He's a Marxist for warning people about the soul destroying danger of greed that accompanies unrestrained capitalism?
Another radical produced by Catholicism (even though he and the church would have a parting), Martin Luther, had said God gave property to Christians so they could help others.


Yes, when we have children being raped....he's got messed up priories. What part of the bible addresses "soul destroying danger of greed that accompanies unrestrained capitalism?" :roll: It's assine political statements like you made that makes Catholic's distrust their pope....anything other than cleaning up the boy-humpers is BS at at this time. I'll not give another red cent to the Church, until I see evidence that he's working for God. As of now I see no signs he's a good guy...just a enabler of rapists.

Every second, he wastes not saving kids...he helps rapists. Putting politics before people, before children makes him a Marxist.


While the Bible admittedly makes no reference to capitalism, it does say: "love of money is the root of all evil." So, condemning the soul destroying attributes of greed associated with unrestrained capitalism is in the same spirit.
And as far as making Catholics distrust their Pope - well, as I'm a Lutheran, I see I'm succeeding in my mission. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
No, but seriously, I like this current Pope quite a bit.


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05 Dec 2013, 11:52 pm

And it's not just the Catholic church, even though it doesn't help being a hierarchical institution.

For example, I have criticized psychologists and psychiatrists as ideologues and prima donnas. And yes, there are some good ones, but I think it's less than 30%. But . . . if you really want to roll out the heavy artillery against the field of psychiatry, there have been a number of cases in which psychiatrists have sexually exploited the vulnerability of their patients, and the field has only been marginally better than the Catholic church in dealing with it.

Or, look at Penn State university, covering up sexual abuse for the sake of a damn football program?



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06 Dec 2013, 11:46 am

DarkRain wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Pope Francis has actually proven to be a good pope. He's just what the Catholic church needed.


God forgive me for this, but Francis is an idiot...and I'm a Catholic who's saying this. He's the last pope the Church needed. He can make all of the committees he wants to (and I'm not saying this committee on clerical child abuse or whatever the hell it is is a bad thing), but it's not changing my opinion on the man. He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.


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06 Dec 2013, 11:53 am

I know this is unkind. It this going to be some kind of a booking agency for horny priests?

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06 Dec 2013, 1:24 pm

DarkRain wrote:
He sounds like a straight-up Marxist.


WTF?



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06 Dec 2013, 11:51 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

While the Bible admittedly makes no reference to capitalism, it does say: "love of money is the root of all evil." So, condemning the soul destroying attributes of greed associated with unrestrained capitalism is in the same spirit.
And as far as making Catholics distrust their Pope - well, as I'm a Lutheran, I see I'm succeeding in my mission. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
No, but seriously, I like this current Pope quite a bit.


The Book of Timothy is in the NT, not the bible. Only a Gentile could have come up with "The love of money is the root of all evil". What about someone who enjoy's creating a value for which he is compensated sufficiently. As that part of evil, producing stuff?

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