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29 Jan 2014, 4:16 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/m ... -1.1593970

Good idea or bad idea?


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29 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm

Wish I hadn't seen the picture of those handing bodies in the article.



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29 Jan 2014, 4:40 pm

^^
My apologies. It was not my intention to offend.


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29 Jan 2014, 4:44 pm

The bad idea is that the Mexican Government is wanting to "organize" the vigilante militias under the Mexican National Army, which is already corrupt as hell and has been in bed with the drug cartels all along. The dumbest thing the vigilante citizens can do is let the Army know where their weapons and groups are located. They'll be slaughtered.



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29 Jan 2014, 5:06 pm

That picture with hanging bodies 8O reminds me of that one scene in Dark Knight Rises before Bruce Wayne gets angry and throws a rock at the TV showing hanging bodies.



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29 Jan 2014, 6:09 pm

My question here is how many of the Narco gangs will try to foist themselves off as 'good upstanding citizens' as they go to war with rival gangs?


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29 Jan 2014, 6:32 pm

Well, it was this or admitting that they couldn't protect their own citizens.


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29 Jan 2014, 9:43 pm

Its a bad idea.

Legalized vigilantes ...aka 'militias' that have no chain of command with the forces of the law/gov always end up committing atrocities against innocent civilians.

It has happened in Mexico every single time in the past. It happened in Central and South America..it happened in Europe for centuries.



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29 Jan 2014, 11:15 pm

Normally, I'd say it's a bad idea, as that's the job of professional police. But the Mexican police have proven themselves to be corrupt and ineffectual. In this case, ordinary people have no choice but to stand up to the vicious criminal element themselves.
And no, I AM NOT promoting vigilantism in America.


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30 Jan 2014, 6:23 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Normally, I'd say it's a bad idea, as that's the job of professional police. But the Mexican police have proven themselves to be corrupt and ineffectual. In this case, ordinary people have no choice but to stand up to the vicious criminal element themselves.
And no, I AM NOT promoting vigilantism in America.


That's actually pretty close to how I feel about this, the Mexican people have been brutalized by both sides of this for so long that it was pretty inevitable that something was going to have to give eventually. Now, if they'd allowed their citizens the freedom and ability to defend themselves in the first place maybe things wouldn't have gotten quite so out of hand, but that's a whole other argument.


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30 Jan 2014, 8:33 am

Something similar happened once in my country. As guerillas were getting increasingly bold and powerful, and as our military was ineffective at stopping them, farmers had no choice but to organize themselves and fight back. They had government support back then. However, they grew too strong and now the AUC are considered a terrorist organization.

I don't know what to think. This can end badly. On the other hand... people have a right to defend themselves, especially if the state isn't capable of doing that duty (and one of the points of belonging to a state is protection, if they can't even ensure that... anyways) and thus if those people decide to fight back instead of staying victims, well, I'd probably do the same, and it's a good thing their government won't screw them further. But it could get out of hand.


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30 Jan 2014, 8:49 am

Would they rather just let the cartels do as they please with no blowback whatsoever? Eventually someone was gonna fight back.



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30 Jan 2014, 1:52 pm

Dantac wrote:
It happened in Central and South America..it happened in Europe for centuries.


Yes, and in Guatamala and El Salvador, there was a name for these groups;

Death Squads


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30 Jan 2014, 1:56 pm

maybe george zimmerman will move to mexico.he may have found his calling


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30 Jan 2014, 3:54 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
maybe george zimmerman will move to mexico.he may have found his calling


:lol:



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30 Jan 2014, 9:16 pm

starkid wrote:
Wish I hadn't seen the picture of those handing bodies in the article.


Agreed. I stopped reading after that.