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17 Jan 2014, 2:59 pm

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news ... -2014.html
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17 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm

I'll never understand why people think something is interesting enough to post but not interesting enough to bother to post some kind of executive summary.

In any case, why would anyone gas rattlesnakes? If I'm driving down a road and see a rattlesnake or other snake on the roadway, I nearly always stop and try to get them to move off the roadway before they get run over.



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17 Jan 2014, 5:37 pm

^^Sorry about that,they pour gasoline into their dens to get them to come out so they can be made into hat bands at rattlesnake round ups.The gas kills all the other animals that also use the denning site as a home.


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17 Jan 2014, 5:46 pm

Fear not. Countermeasures have been deployed.

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And perhaps these meddling mammals should pay attention to the prophecy of Ragnarok:

Prose Edda wrote:
"Then will occur what will seem a great piece of news, the wolf will wallow the sun and that will seem a great disaster to men. Then another wolf will seize the moon and that one too will do great harm. The stars will disappear from heaven. Then this will come to pass, the whole surface of the earth and the mountains will tremble so (violently) that trees will be uprooted from the ground, mountains will crash down, and all fetters and bonds will be snapped and severed. The wolf Fenrir will get loose then. The sea will lash against the land because the Miðgarð Serpent is writhing in giant fury trying to come ashore. At that time, too, the ship known as Naglfar will become free. It is made of dead men's nails, so it is worth warning you that, if anyone dies with his nails uncut, he will greatly increase the material for that ship which oth gods and men devoutly hope will take a long time building. In this tidal wave, however, Naglfar will be launched. The name of the giant steering Naglfar is Hrym. The wolf Fenrir will advance with wide open mouth, his upper jaw against the sky, his lower on the earth (he would gape more widely still if there were room) and his eyes and nostrils will blaze with fire. The Miðgarð Serpent will blow so much poison that the whole sky and sea will be spattered with it; he is most terrible and will be on the other side of the wolf."

They want chemical warfare? Well, they asked for it... :twisted:



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17 Jan 2014, 5:56 pm

Misslizard wrote:
^^Sorry about that,they pour gasoline into their dens to get them to come out so they can be made into hat bands at rattlesnake round ups.The gas kills all the other animals that also use the denning site as a home.


Okay. I looked at the two links.

I have never heard of rattlesnakes sharing dens with animals before. Other snakes, yes. But not animals. I would think that would be rather lethal for the animals.

In any event, you can safely bet that there will be no law outlawing the practice in Texas this year no matter what happens.



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17 Jan 2014, 6:00 pm

Wish they would think of some way to do an ongoing round-up of the Everglade pythons before they (the pythons) eat everything and everybody down there.



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17 Jan 2014, 6:26 pm

I watched a show on rattlers in Florida and even gopher turtles get in there with the snakes.It showed footage of one of the normal brush fires and all sorts of animals went in the holes,even a rabbit took shelter.When they gas the dens no animal can use it for a long time because of the fumes.
I've read some articles on the problems in Florida,many irresponsible pet owners and damage to breeding facilities caused the Python problem.There's also a type of non native monitor lizard that has homesteader the area.An interesting article on the green iguanas said they the first were sighted in the Keys in the fifties,before iguanas entered the pet trade.They had to arrive floating on seaweed or logs.They don't cause problems except cranky people don't like them popping in the swimming pool.all you need to prevent that is a fake plastic alligator in the pool,of couse being Florida a real gator may take up residence in the pool. :D


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19 Jan 2014, 7:59 am

GGPViper wrote:
Fear not. Countermeasures have been deployed.

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And perhaps these meddling mammals should pay attention to the prophecy of Ragnarok:

Prose Edda wrote:
"Then will occur what will seem a great piece of news, the wolf will wallow the sun and that will seem a great disaster to men. Then another wolf will seize the moon and that one too will do great harm. The stars will disappear from heaven. Then this will come to pass, the whole surface of the earth and the mountains will tremble so (violently) that trees will be uprooted from the ground, mountains will crash down, and all fetters and bonds will be snapped and severed. The wolf Fenrir will get loose then. The sea will lash against the land because the Miðgarð Serpent is writhing in giant fury trying to come ashore. At that time, too, the ship known as Naglfar will become free. It is made of dead men's nails, so it is worth warning you that, if anyone dies with his nails uncut, he will greatly increase the material for that ship which oth gods and men devoutly hope will take a long time building. In this tidal wave, however, Naglfar will be launched. The name of the giant steering Naglfar is Hrym. The wolf Fenrir will advance with wide open mouth, his upper jaw against the sky, his lower on the earth (he would gape more widely still if there were room) and his eyes and nostrils will blaze with fire. The Miðgarð Serpent will blow so much poison that the whole sky and sea will be spattered with it; he is most terrible and will be on the other side of the wolf."

They want chemical warfare? Well, they asked for it... :twisted:

I love the Eddas. Brings back memories of my father reading them to me before bed.



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19 Jan 2014, 10:19 am

As an animal lover, they're just doing more harm than good here. Unintentionally killing off several other animals just to get at one seems counterproductive to me.



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19 Jan 2014, 10:39 am

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As an animal lover, they're just doing more harm than good here. Unintentionally killing off several other animals just to get at one seems counterproductive to me.


Not only that but the Eastern Timber Rattlesnake is a fairly placid calm snake. --You really have to work hard at getting one to bite you, and I've heard stories of people picking them up to move them out of the way, and the snake stayed calm though the whole event.


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20 Jan 2014, 12:55 am

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I forgot to mention, all this really does is result in those who's e-mail addresses you give being spammed about it. I don't know about most people, but sending me one of those spams would mean that I would filter out any and all future e-mails from you because I hate spammers.



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20 Jan 2014, 8:46 am

They do send emails,but they are not obnoxious about it,and most are petitions for good causes so I don't mind.Its easy to remove yourself from their mailing list and they don't share your address with other groups.I wasn't happy at first when a friend sent it to me,but changed my mind.Its so much easier to click a button to take action than call or write someone.


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21 Jan 2014, 9:16 am

Of course, no one understands that rattlesnakes (when not trying to bite) are really cool.



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21 Jan 2014, 11:00 am

Yes,they are interesting creatures.They really are not aggressive.i encounter them a lot here.Snapped this photo in the yard,later she had babies.
[img][800:720]http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/2lucky4snuffy/451ae528c062a0537251dcf7fe2aec77_zps686f3b18.jpg[/img]


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21 Jan 2014, 1:55 pm

If you want aggression, bullsnakes are many times worse than rattlesnakes.

For that matter, put a bullsnake and a rattlesnake together and the bullsnake will kill the rattlesnake.



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21 Jan 2014, 1:59 pm

F'k the stupid rattlesnakes.
Yay Texas! keep gassing!


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