I feel more hurt by Robin Williams than terrorism (9/11 etc)

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13 Aug 2014, 11:02 am

His daughter is named ZELDA for god sake!! !! She just played at the SSB E3 tournament and both were in an OoT 3D commercial together! That wicked grizly adams beard was AWESOME! Hook,Mrs. Doubtfire,Good Will Hunting all great films! A great actor and comedian. Vs. some psycho blowing up a marathon or running a plane into a building building go BOOM! Sounds childish go BOOM! But I have NO connection to the WTC didn't even know what it was or hear of it until that faithful day! Mass shootings let me know when one happens in Florida WHERE I LIVE then we'll TALK!! !! !


Otherwise in other states/cities I don't have a connection too. I feel more HURT by the death of Robin Williams than acts of violence anyone on the same page here? Also the church psycho OMG! go to hell for suicide the man was severely depressed I'm sure many on the spectrum can relate in some way. I feel suicide doesn't equal HELL and "The Genie is Free" Zelda Williams closed her social media accounts since people were negative and posting fake pics. of her dead father. SICKOS! She was named after a princess and always will be. and her father was an avid gamer. WoW,Zelda (her namesake after all). Sad to see him gone. vs. 3,000 random strangers.



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13 Aug 2014, 11:12 am

I feel the same way. Robin Williams means more to me than 9/11 ever will.


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13 Aug 2014, 11:29 am

Good. The terrorists goal was to terrorize people so if you get scared by terrorists, that means you're letting the terrorists win. Therefor we should be more emotionally effected by the tragic death of Robin Williams than by terrorists.



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13 Aug 2014, 12:47 pm

I am not sure if I should feel upset about the suicide or feel sad about it. He had a wife and kids for god's sake and how could anyone leave that behind and leave them suffering but then again suicide is a serious thing and considered an illness when anyone feels that way. So therefore they don't think rational.


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13 Aug 2014, 1:05 pm

Apples and oranges.
What does 9/11 have to do with Robin Williams?? Nothing.



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13 Aug 2014, 1:23 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
Apples and oranges.
What does 9/11 have to do with Robin Williams?? Nothing.



Terrorism was a terrible thing that happened many many people were upset by and it affected tons of people. But with Robin Williams death, that is barely anything and it won't affect many many people, only his family and perhaps his friends. Actually lot of people are going to miss him. My mouth dropped open when I first heard the news on another forum and then felt shocked.


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13 Aug 2014, 1:25 pm

unless you lost people close to you 9/11 and Robin Williams' death are two entirely different things. The first is shock fear etc the second is about loss and grief. Why compare the two? What purpose does this serve? All youve really said is that you're more affected by the death of someone who touched you personally than the death of people you have no ties to - if my assumption is correct that you dont.


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13 Aug 2014, 2:39 pm

Ectryon wrote:
unless you lost people close to you 9/11 and Robin Williams' death are two entirely different things. The first is shock fear etc the second is about loss and grief. Why compare the two? What purpose does this serve? All youve really said is that you're more affected by the death of someone who touched you personally than the death of people you have no ties to - if my assumption is correct that you dont.


Because people make an unintentional hyperbole out of 9/11 when there have been FAR, FAR larger and more widespread massacres...that is what makes it easy to make light of 9/11, until you remember that it had a domino effect greater than say, the Gulf War.


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13 Aug 2014, 2:44 pm

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unless you lost people close to you 9/11 and Robin Williams' death are two entirely different things. The first is shock fear etc the second is about loss and grief. Why compare the two? What purpose does this serve? All youve really said is that you're more affected by the death of someone who touched you personally than the death of people you have no ties to - if my assumption is correct that you dont.


Because people make an unintentional hyperbole out of 9/11 when there have been FAR, FAR larger and more widespread massacres...that is what makes it easy to make light of 9/11, until you remember that it had a domino effect greater than say, the Gulf War.


Pearl Harbour eclipses 9/11 in terms of repercussions surely. 9/11 was the moment American civilisation really faced its own mortality. It was a tragedy but it became a conspiracy trope and the remembranxce of the victims was overshadowed by Bush's hamfisted inept geopolitics


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13 Aug 2014, 2:53 pm

I don't see how the death of a celebrity, no matter how great he was, is more tragic than a foreign attack directly on our country and our people that killed 3,000 innocent civilians. But if that's what hurts you more, then that's what hurts you more. Can't really do much to change it.


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13 Aug 2014, 3:35 pm

Not to be rude, but that's a bit of a slap in the face to the families of those 3000 victims who died on 9/11. While Williams' death is tragic, I can't in good conscience put it on the same level as that of 9/11.


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13 Aug 2014, 3:46 pm

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His daughter is named ZELDA for god sake!! !! She just played at the SSB E3 tournament and both were in an OoT 3D commercial together! That wicked grizly adams beard was AWESOME! Hook,Mrs. Doubtfire,Good Will Hunting all great films! A great actor and comedian. Vs. some psycho blowing up a marathon or running a plane into a building building go BOOM! Sounds childish go BOOM! But I have NO connection to the WTC didn't even know what it was or hear of it until that faithful day! Mass shootings let me know when one happens in Florida WHERE I LIVE then we'll TALK!! !! !


Otherwise in other states/cities I don't have a connection too. I feel more HURT by the death of Robin Williams than acts of violence anyone on the same page here? Also the church psycho OMG! go to hell for suicide the man was severely depressed I'm sure many on the spectrum can relate in some way. I feel suicide doesn't equal HELL and "The Genie is Free" Zelda Williams closed her social media accounts since people were negative and posting fake pics. of her dead father. SICKOS! She was named after a princess and always will be. and her father was an avid gamer. WoW,Zelda (her namesake after all). Sad to see him gone. vs. 3,000 random strangers.


Should have read the OP before posting. You made a valid point. We hear about genocides wars and tragedies everyday on the news and its too remote for us to understand but RW was personal. Fair enough. However you've phrased the point in such a way that trivialises the whole thing. Wouldnt be surprised if this thread ends up being locked. Im not predicting that it will be, but really...


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13 Aug 2014, 5:32 pm

all the people who died at the twin tower butchering didnt have a choice in their death whereas robin obviously felt it was his time due to his depression masking his thinking,but it sounds like have got a deep connection to robin and am guessing it will be harder to get upset about people who have never felt connected to so that is not a surprise about the reaction to twin towers.
am unable to feel connection to any human at all and base sympathy on sense and morals instead of feeling.

perhaps more sympathy shoud go towards robins daughter zelda,even though her dad has only just killed himself zelda has been attacked by trolls on twitter,theyve got naff all concience or
care for others.


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13 Aug 2014, 7:24 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I am not sure if I should feel upset about the suicide or feel sad about it. He had a wife and kids for god's sake and how could anyone leave that behind and leave them suffering but then again suicide is a serious thing and considered an illness when anyone feels that way. So therefore they don't think rational.

At first I thought like you. How could he leave his wife and kids behind? Then, as more of the truth comes out you realise what a terrible time he was going through. TV show cancelled so no work. Severe financial stress from two previous broken marriages. Seems present wife is in name only. They sleep in separate bedrooms. She is out shopping in the morning leaving the PA to find the body. Children living away from home. Williams must have been a difficult person to live with, but he doesn't deserve to finish up the way he did. Maybe that's the reason people feel so sorry about his death.



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13 Aug 2014, 8:27 pm

progaspie wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I am not sure if I should feel upset about the suicide or feel sad about it. He had a wife and kids for god's sake and how could anyone leave that behind and leave them suffering but then again suicide is a serious thing and considered an illness when anyone feels that way. So therefore they don't think rational.

At first I thought like you. How could he leave his wife and kids behind? Then, as more of the truth comes out you realise what a terrible time he was going through. TV show cancelled so no work. Severe financial stress from two previous broken marriages. Seems present wife is in name only. They sleep in separate bedrooms. She is out shopping in the morning leaving the PA to find the body. Children living away from home. Williams must have been a difficult person to live with, but he doesn't deserve to finish up the way he did. Maybe that's the reason people feel so sorry about his death.


Los Angeles Times said that RW's career was pretty much over and done after his TV show was cancelled, the only work he could find was on low budget indie films that basically pay the actors for expenses and that's it. His days of big paychecks were LONG gone. On top of that, he had to pay lifetime alimony to two previous wives, who apparently really took him to the cleaners, getting multimillion dollar payouts in total, and he had to pay in installments for as long as the wives lived. Problem is, he had no money. He was drinking (and likely snorting coke) again and he went to rehab but could only stay for a few days since he had no money. He was trying to sell a ranch in California wine country but he found no takers. His friends said he was cutting himself off from them, few calls, few texts, no visits. At 63 years old there were no roles, Hollywood is notoriously tough on old actors, most get jettisoned for newer models and the few roles out there are usually stuff about old people dying. I'm really not surprised he killed himself, actually. Depression is the illness, suicide is the result, like when a diabetic dies of a heart attack, diabetes is the sickness but you die of the heart attack. Even cancer victims don't die of cancer itself, but something related.



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13 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm

I agree with the OP. The terrorists bring fear, but he brought laughter, comfort, and perhaps relativity in his struggles. His voice will always be memorable facets of life to me. May he find peace....