China less repressive than US?

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China's population is more than 5 times our population. We have over 2 times more people in prison. We no longer have a right to a trial ( one can be held in prison for decades with no charges being filed).
I am not pro Chinese government. My point is that we are no longer a free country.

Yeah, thats pretty debatable. People convicted of non-political crimes in China don't go to "prison" they get sent to farms and factories where they work for half or %30 of the going labor rate.

I'd say both are opposite sides of the same counterfeit coin.

Different places repress different rights at different times. That said, the U.S. really makes a mockery of "land of the free". Social Darwinism is alive & well here, compassion is viewed as a liability. Neither model is remotely sustainable, people are learning though...

not enough people are learning, and the ones that are are learning too late to do anything about it. the fascist monster long ago got his bulk under the tent flap and is feeling his oats now.

Ha ha ha ha.

The Chinese population is much more repressed. They have the same rules against debauchery or worse but the population is more passive and uniform. I can't imagine a China that has better due process than the USA.

i like my clean water, pristine national parks and the fact that i can't find pills made from powdered baby flesh here.

The USA is a racist s**t hole but as much as it sucks to be a Black or Latino man in America, try being an Uyghur in China... or a political dissident... or a woman pregnant with her second or third child, and forced into an abortion.

China, less oppressive then the USA? Don't make me laugh. An absolutely preposterous statement not even worth discussing. As much as I believe the American society is flawed and corrupt, it's nowhere near as bet as China yet. Thank God...

I hope you're being a bit too pessimistic. A big reason for the huge increase in the the US prison population has to do with our idiotic drug policies... With those policies affecting more and more whites and costing more and more money, even conservatives are beginning to think differently.

Heck, decriminalizing drugs is one of the few things libertarians are right about!

I think as drug policy becomes less political, we could see a drastic reduction in prison population as we move to a more sensible/practical way of dealing with drugs and addicts.

not likely to happen fast enough to save us.

Having a huge prison population is profitable.

I've been to China and stayed there for a couple months, I wouldn't say it's a more free country, lots of Chinese are scared to speak their minds, thing is that China has a millenarian culture what can explain the lower prison population, same can be said about Japan being one of th safest countries in the world. It's mostly cultural, north East Asian are less enclined to crime that the rest of the world.
Has for the USA, it's the justice system being one of the most sever in the world that explains the high prison population, more than half the people in jail in the US are for drugs, not selling but for drug consumption, while in Europe drug users will be sent to medical units and taken care off, in the US (if they are poor) are sent to prison, another thing is that for example in the US if you steal a car you can land in jail for 5 years, while in Europe if it's your first offense and nobody was hurt, you will get finned, might do some community service but won't be sent to prison.
In France the prison population is 60.000, but if France has the same incarceration rate the US does then it will be around 500.000 people in jail.
Thing I notice (I come to the USA once or twice a year) is that the it has became a police state in the last 10 years, I remember police wearing uniforms, a belt and a pistol, today the same police are wearing full tactical gear and carrying rifles, like if the police has became a paramilitary group. Scary.

Only to the people running the prison. I'm pretty sure if many of those people were not in prison they would cost society a lot less.

There is big $ in the prison-industrial complex.

www.vice.com/read/whos-getting-rich-off ... al-complex

They are also getting into making $ by imprisoning illegal immigrants.

www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/world/asia/g ... d=all&_r=0

the moneylenders have taken over the temple, kicked out the righteous and are charging everybody rent to worship at their altar of greed.