Unavoidable Climate Change

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I was reading The Guardian (UK Newspaper) the other day and was shocked to read that in 100 years the temperature bill rise by 4 degrees celsius. It didn't sound like much but upon reading on It mentioned that this means 50% of land animals are likely to become extinct, Major cities such as London, New York and Tokyo susceptable to major flooding and a huge increase in AIDs in Africa due to Mosquitos thriving in the conditions. I was even more horrified a couple of days later when I read that there is a 50% chance that the change is unavoidable.

What are your views on this?

Where have you been?

This is a very ...."inconvenient truth".....and as The Dead Kennedys,so aptly say....."give me convenience or give me death"....
I guess we got our wish.....convenience and death.....pardon me,while I go warm up my SUV for 30 min.,so it's nice and toasty on my trip up the block to get some Cheetos.....

I currently live in Minnesota and wonder if "the land of 10,000 lakes" will eventually become ...."the land of one really big lake"?
As fr as "warming".....we are all for it here,I hate 9 months of winter.....

Well I usually focus directly on the politics rather than on general cuand I don't watch the news so much recently.

I don't quite understand how something can be 50% "unavoidable". Doesn't that mean that there is a 50% chance that its avoidable? Which basically boils down to: if we do this, this will happen....and, if we do this, this will happen. Which makes the word "unavoidable" mean absolutely nothing in this case.

Here was a story today about Al Gore's documentary:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Yj ... EwZTFhM2E=

I think it's definately unavoidable if you look at the US carbon emissions.

The hypotesis of the Global Warming(tm) is based on not-so-verified facts, like that carbon dioxyde ratios are proportional to global temperature, and that global temperature is now higher than in older epochs.

First of all, what the real facts say is that the MAIN factor in regulating the temperature is the solar energy and magnetic output. In fact, recent tests and studies show that CO2 levels play no relevant paper in the temperature, at most they may affect at secondary levels.

Second, climatologists show that in the XIV (I think) century the temperature was 2/4 ºC above our current temperature, and no apocalypse ever came. In fact, that was one epoch of great growth in the whole world. Plus, those same studies say that we are just coming out of a cold epoch, and that the growth of the temperature is perfectly normal.

So don't be so worried about all this alarmism. If Global Warming didn't exist, people would have to invent it

You get your propaganda from National Review.....I get mine from "the Nation"....they are both just that,propaganda based on the current belief system(preference)of the readers.I have no optimism about humans ability to make long term plans to avoid possible or even probable disaster9Anyone hear about New Orleans?), at the cost of their current conveniences or profits.We just cant seem to do it(most particularly in America).Perhaps it is because the root belief system is one of "unavoidable" Armigedon?Who are we to mess with Gods will.

You are correct in my opinion,that all the little "gestures" of energy effecency are like putting a band-aid on an AIDS victem."Global Warning scares" were popular when I was in JR High...1976.....That was before everyone owned an SUV,it didnt seem to "catch on" as a long lasting "trend".Waste of energy appears to be ingrained on our psychys as a "birth right"....nothing will change until the mind set changes(gestalt),and becomes more then a buzz phrase for a few years.


This to shall pass.....and if not....it maybe good idea to learn to swim.

More reputable studies put the water level rise due to increased temperatures at 1-2 feet max. While that would change things. How much is another story. I am not that familiar with other countries but in the eastern US. 1-2 feet would only inundate a few places at most. NYC would not be affected much.

I agree with much of what Krex says. As long as we're married to "Convenience" nothing can change for the better. Here in Florida I see terrible wastes of resources. I see businesses that have timed lawn sprinklers running while it's raining, and they are mostly watering telephone poles and patches of dead grass. I see people leaving their cars idling while they sit in it talking on a cell phone, or running into a store to get something. I see people driving huge cars with just themselves in it. And so on. If here, in the year 2007, there haven't been drastic changes in the wasteful, selfish society we live in, why fret? What will be will be.

The coastlines of britain are already shirnking. I don't wanna think of how this will affect it

Well, we're doomed old chap, obviously. The shorelines will erode until we disappear into the sea like Atlantis. God save the Queen ! !!

I'm migrating to Edinburgh!

Wait a minute... It won't happen if my lifetime but If I plan to have children I'll move to and get a mortgage on a house in Edinburgh.

Best to try Oz, at least it's got more coastline to lose. Or you could go the ex-pat route and move to the USA (??! !)

I'd much prefer Australia thanks!