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05 Apr 2016, 4:20 pm

Discrimination is now part of Mississippi law.

Y'know, there once was a time when slavery was protected under the name of "religious freedom".



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05 Apr 2016, 9:05 pm

Just recently, an RV park owner in Mississippi kicked an interracial couple out of his park, because - among other things - his church's opposition to race mixing. That, like the Anti-LGBT law just passed in that less than esteemed state, is the outcome of justifying bigotry in the name of religion.


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05 Apr 2016, 11:54 pm

You would think the Mississippi government would be more concerned about the high levels of poverty and the crappy school that their state has.



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06 Apr 2016, 12:11 am

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You would think the Mississippi government would be more concerned about the high levels of poverty and the crappy school that their state has.


Of course they won't, as that would take too much time and effort. Not when it's so much easier to get the citizens of Mississippi to ignore those problems by urgently demonizing someone else.


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06 Apr 2016, 12:24 am

"The legislation does not challenge federal law -- "even those which are in conflict with the [new changes to the] Mississippi Constitution" -- and reinforces First Amendment rights, a statement from the governor said."

Um, yes. Yes it does. And decision after decision has said that Federal law triumphs, especially when it comes to things like making one group of people (in this case, lgbt people and unmarried pregnant women) into second class citizens. Oh, also? Your new law directly opposes/disregards the Supreme Court decision in Obergefell. Your new law, Mr. Governor, is by definition unconstitutional.

On the bright side, the hard part in the past with Supreme Court cases was showing enough oppression to warrant designating LGBT people as a suspect class (ie needing special consideration). Looks like these states are doing everything they can to ensure sexual orientation and gender identity are given the same consideration as sex and race.


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06 Apr 2016, 12:27 am

wowiexist wrote:
You would think the Mississippi government would be more concerned about the high levels of poverty and the crappy school that their state has.


they only have one?

christ. mississippi truly is a relic of the stone age.


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06 Apr 2016, 12:30 am

Edenthiel wrote:
"The legislation does not challenge federal law -- "even those which are in conflict with the [new changes to the] Mississippi Constitution" -- and reinforces First Amendment rights, a statement from the governor said."

Um, yes. Yes it does. And decision after decision has said that Federal law triumphs, especially when it comes to things like making one group of people (in this case, non-conservative-Christian-lifestyle folk) into second class citizens. Oh, also? Your new law directly opposes/disregards the Supreme Court decision in Obergefell. Your new law, Mr. Governor, is by definition unconstitutional.

On the bright side, the hard part in the past with Supreme Court cases was showing enough oppression to warrant designating LGBT people as a suspect class (ie needing special consideration). Looks like these states are doing everything they can to ensure sexual orientation and gender identity are given the same consideration as sex and race.


Seems after blacks got equal rights, Mississippi had to find someone else to denigrate into second class status.


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15 Apr 2016, 4:46 pm

Mississippi is the armpit of the bible belt...



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15 Apr 2016, 6:13 pm

The irony is that MS either is, or close to being predominantly black.

The reason their economy is so terrible is because there never really has been any large-scale industry.


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16 Apr 2016, 2:05 am

The Burwell v. Hobby Lobby decision is relevant.

"The ruling could have widespread impact, allowing corporations to claim religious exemptions from federal law"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v ... tores,_Inc.



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16 Apr 2016, 2:27 am

pcuser wrote:
Mississippi is the armpit of the bible belt...


i'd hate to know what the groin is.


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16 Apr 2016, 2:33 am

I would suggest that it blows, not sucks. Image



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16 Apr 2016, 10:22 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
pcuser wrote:
Mississippi is the armpit of the bible belt...


i'd hate to know what the groin is.

I was just being gentle with my determination. The groin or anywhere else repulsive works for Mississippi...



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16 Apr 2016, 12:37 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
pcuser wrote:
Mississippi is the armpit of the bible belt...


i'd hate to know what the groin is.


Florida.


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16 Apr 2016, 12:39 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
... there once was a time when slavery was protected under the name of "religious freedom".
So were the subjugation of women and conquest by genocide.



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16 Apr 2016, 1:05 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
The Burwell v. Hobby Lobby decision is relevant.

"The ruling could have widespread impact, allowing corporations to claim religious exemptions from federal law"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v ... tores,_Inc.


While that's true, and has certainly been applied to businesses that have a clearly religious clientèle, at some point the Justices are going to be confronted with a paradox of their own making. Over the last 40 years it has become very clear that being LGBT is an intrinsic, biology-based, attribute of a person that does not cause societal harm and rulings have slowly reflected that. Over a similar time period, judges have for largely political or personal reasons tried to balance that progress with promoting people holding certain personal opinions of cosmology to a status above the laws that everyone else must follow, via religious exclusions. And now they have several laws with exceedingly wide ranging exclusions such as the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Hobby Lobby and even tax laws, that effectively place people with religious opinions in a higher legal status than those with unchangeable, intrinsic attributes who are discriminated against because of those qualities - or anyone else, for that matter. How is that not a sort of wink-and-nod de facto theocracy? And don't even get me started on the 40 year legal erosion of a woman's right to bodily sovereignty based once again on religious opinion.


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