Another misunderstood aspie locked up

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29 Aug 2016, 3:12 am

I came across this one today - seems to me like another case of throw the Aspie in jail rather than try and understand them.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-teenag ... r31wb.html


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29 Aug 2016, 9:17 am

While the misununderstanding of aspies is not helping, the main problems are the choices are often bail or jail and no judge or law enforcement personal wants give anybody who has threatened an attack any break on the off chance the person will carry out an attack. If you give somebody a break and they attack that is the end of your career and you will be known for the rest of your life as the bleeding heart whose weak willed decision killed innocents.

House arrest or something similar seems more appropriate in this situation.


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29 Aug 2016, 9:55 am

There is no misunderstanding, other than the pervasive belief among Aspies that claiming Asperger's Syndrome is an automatic "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.

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... a panel of judges decided there was an unacceptable risk of the teenager committing a serious offence and endangering the safety of the community.

"Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the posts on Facebook is that they took place over a significant period of time ... these do not appear to have been spur of the moment thoughts but rather to have been based on or driven by some deep-seated feelings of hostility which the applicant was experiencing at the time."

The boy remains in jail charged with one count of acting in preparation for, or planning, a terrorist act, and one count of using a telecommunications network with the intention to commit a serious offence.
The judges were right in their decision; and even if they have made an error, it was made on the side of caution and in the better interests of the community. The boy posted his plans - he posted his means, motivation, goals, and the conditions - under which he intended to commit a terrorist act. This is itself a criminal act, and claiming that he really didn't mean any of it after he had given every indication that he did, and only after he had been caught ... well, his was legally an on-line confession of the crimes he was charged with!

After all, how many terrorists acting alone have been determined to have had the very same "mental-health issues" that the father claims for his son?

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29 Aug 2016, 11:04 am

Well from the sound of it, seemed like he was certainly playing with the idea of committing a mass murder. Also, that he deleted his facebook and reset computer after posting it implies he definitely knew the implications of what he was doing and how serious it is. He tells authorities he couldn't hurt anyone really, but IDK if someone obsesses over that kind of thing long enough I am sure they can reach a point they could bring themselves to do it.

I think he does probably need some psychological help and should get that, but while locked up I certainly wouldn't want someone who threatened something like that around where I live to just be walking around freely...however it is a criminal act to threaten violence like that, especially when there is evidence you've been planning/considering it for some time.


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29 Aug 2016, 5:16 pm

This is going to be a hard lesson for him to learn. You never ever write threats online, those get taken seriously and then it will be a big mess to sort out in court. Even an NT would be facing this trouble too if they wrote that stuff online even if they were also having issues such as depression or were mad at someone so they wrote those things and I have heard of normal teens getting in trouble too for threats they posted online. My mother always told me of these things so I would learn to not do them.


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01 Sep 2016, 4:59 am

Not so sure prison is the right place for him but I'm glad that something was done.

I think he would probably be better off in psych. Once he gets released from jail, he will come out more damaged than he began with and will be even more likely to be violent.

I hate to say it but these threats do have to be taken seriously. These were either genuine threats or extreme cries for help. Parents seem a little clueless if you ask me. He needs help.



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01 Sep 2016, 2:43 pm

He knows --
what happens to people who get cut with knives
that it's a death threat
that it's illegal

Is the psychiatrist supposed to tell him take a numbant, and squeeze a stress ball?

Do you really want to be profiled, alongside the person, who needs this sort of help?

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