Odds Hillary Won Without Widespread Fraud: 1 in 77 Billion

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22 Oct 2016, 10:13 am



http://alexanderhiggins.com/stanford-be ... ion-fraud/

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Widespread allegations of election fraud and voter suppression across the United States during the 2016 Democratic Primary has sparked the interest of several academic researchers and what they discovered in their research is disturbing.

The researchers each performed independent studies in which a few different statistical was applied to analyze various subsets of vote data and of the studies came to the same conclusion.

Namely that Hillary’s win was could have only been possible a result of widespread election fraud.

In fact, one of the statistical models applied by Stanford University researcher Rodolfo Cortes Barragan to a subset of the data found that the probability of the “huge discrepancies” of which “nearly all are in favor of Hillary Clinton by a huge margin” was “statistically impossible” and that “the probability of this this happening was is 1 in 77 billion”.

Furthermore, the researchers found that the election fraud only occurred in places where the voting machines were hackable and that did not keep an paper trail of the ballots.

In these locations Hillary won by massive margins.

On the other hand, in locations that were not hackable and did keep paper trails of the ballots Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton.

Analysis also showed repeatedly irregularities and statistically impossible reverses in reported live votes in several locations across the country.

In commenting on the research, Barragan stated that some of the models are rock solid and 59 years old and the results seen here have never been witnessed in non-fraudelent election during that time period.

To summarize, at least four different independent studies were conducted with various statistical models applied.

The researchers applied the different statistical models to:

Actual vote counts as they were reported
Discrepancies in polling data verse actual counts.
Various subsets of demographic polling data verse actual vote counts

The results of each study corroborated the with the results of the others and some of the researchers have review the work of the others’ and go onto to confirm the findings in those studies.

It will take months for the studies to undergo peer review.

However, all of their research statistically proved there there must of been widespread fraud to create the discrepancies in the vote counts that exist in all 3 subsets of the data analyzed.

The research of Barragan, done collaboratively with Axel Geijsel of Tilburg University in The Netherlands.

That research corroborates independent mathematical research conducted by Richard Charnin.

Further independent research was conducted by Beth Clarkson of Berkeley who also not only corroborated the two previous studies but reviewed them and after her research was done and confirmed their results.



How much has this been studied really? Bernie himself made these allegations in the primary before he sold out unfortunately.



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22 Oct 2016, 11:46 am

Yeah, Bernie got sandbagged. Even before allegations of fraud, it was clear that the DNC had already made up its mind.
As for "selling out", I think it is more "party discipline"



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22 Oct 2016, 2:00 pm

staremaster wrote:
Yeah, Bernie got sandbagged. Even before allegations of fraud, it was clear that the DNC had already made up its mind.
As for "selling out", I think it is more "party discipline"

Or maybe it's more from loyalty toward his country.


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22 Oct 2016, 3:00 pm

Good politics is more about getting what you want than "winning."



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22 Oct 2016, 3:03 pm

Be careful, or Trump will follow through and actually shoot someone in the middle of the street. He said that was what he would have to do to lose, and he's already pursued just about every other avenue to achieve that goal.

Also, I'll spare others the time:
http://www.snopes.com/stanford-study-pr ... repancies/


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22 Oct 2016, 3:07 pm

The DNC is corrupt, the RNC is corrupt.

Fact: Republicans are working on voter suppression across the country. They know they can't win without cheating. Trump is calling out "rigged" election on Democrats while he hypocritically ignores the "rigging" going on by the republican party...

Fact is that voter fraud is just a republican smoke screen so that they can suppress certain "undesirables" from voting for democrats, generally black people and Mexicans. A quick google search shows that from 2000-2014 only 31 cases of voter fraud were reported in 1 billion votes. Not quite the wide spread fraud needed to send Hillary to the white house.

By the way, Bernie didn't sell out. But that's a debate for another thread... :P


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22 Oct 2016, 6:22 pm

Tollorin wrote:
staremaster wrote:
Yeah, Bernie got sandbagged. Even before allegations of fraud, it was clear that the DNC had already made up its mind.
As for "selling out", I think it is more "party discipline"

Or maybe it's more from loyalty toward his country.


I agree. Bernie knows a Trump victory would spell disaster for America, and supporting longshots like Jill Stein would be the equivalent of flushing your ballot down the toilet.


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22 Oct 2016, 10:00 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
staremaster wrote:
Yeah, Bernie got sandbagged. Even before allegations of fraud, it was clear that the DNC had already made up its mind.
As for "selling out", I think it is more "party discipline"

Or maybe it's more from loyalty toward his country.


I agree. Bernie knows a Trump victory would spell disaster for America, and supporting longshots like Jill Stein would be the equivalent of flushing your ballot down the toilet.


This.



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23 Oct 2016, 2:23 am

I'm not sure I buy this analysis. I never had the impression that Bernie was ahead in the race.

Does anyone here actually understand how "1 in 77 billion" was calculated? I don't see anyone flatly denying it or enthusiastically agreeing probably because the article doesn't actually explain very much. It just tells us someone else's opinion without explaining the math behind it rigorously. Any mathematics here care to show whether this is accurate or false?



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23 Oct 2016, 9:05 am

Specifically speaking, I've never seen an article with so many errors in the way it's written, in my LIFE----like, only 4 or 5 lines did NOT contain errors----that's WILD!!

GENERALLY speaking, I believe this study, because I have seen SOOOOO many articles, saying the same thing----they can't ALL be making it up!!










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23 Oct 2016, 9:35 am

Oh, ignore my last comment. I realize now that the article is longer than I thought before. Actually it goes into a lot of detail.

I haven't read it all yet.



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23 Oct 2016, 5:34 pm

Ignoring Heavenly abyss' post for the sake of a general point:
Dear Campin Cat. They don't all need to make stuff up. One person needs to, the others only need to repeat it.
Like rumours or religions. No one even needs to believe it, as long as they act as if. Like santa clause.
Numbers of unverified sources are irrelevant.


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23 Oct 2016, 6:03 pm

This does not pass the sniff test.


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27 Oct 2016, 2:59 pm

Is confiscatory wealth redistribution an example of fraud, and what else did she have to offer.



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27 Oct 2016, 3:40 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Is confiscatory wealth redistribution an example of fraud, and what else did she have to offer.


Are you referring to taxation? Because that's hardly fraud. What's unfair is that the tax burden falls on those who can scarcely afford it, while the wealthy have all the tax loopholes to slither through, all the while whining about how they're so over taxed.


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