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24 Jan 2017, 12:34 pm

Some are wondering if Trump, judging by Tillerson's and Spicer's recent statements, is planning to wage war on China soon:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ccca8d9493

EDIT: Corrected attribution


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24 Jan 2017, 12:52 pm

Makes more sense than going to war with Russia.



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24 Jan 2017, 1:09 pm

It's an economic war Obama and company, for their own reasons, have been letting China win.

Trump won't stand for it.

Finally....Hooray!! !

They've been running circles around us.



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24 Jan 2017, 4:15 pm

Here we go. EVERY TIME Trump gets criticized, one of his f*cking supporters start shifting blame to Obama or whomever. Stay on topic!!



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24 Jan 2017, 5:51 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Here we go. EVERY TIME Trump gets criticized, one of his f*cking supporters start shifting blame to Obama or whomever. Stay on topic!!


Seeing as how Obama was the president up until 4 days ago, there's still going to be plenty of residual effect of his presidency that's going to overlap Trump's presidency for a while to come.

And for the record, every time someone criticized Obama while he was in office, his supporters always shifted blame to the republicans and or Bush.
The national debt increased 10 trillion dollars while Obama was in office: That was the republicans and Bush's fault. Obamacare was a massive failure: That was the republicans fault. And so on.

Now if people are still bringing up Obama when Trump is still president in like 2021, then you'll have more of a legitimate complaint.



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24 Jan 2017, 6:00 pm

Perhpas the idea is that a war will fix the US economy, like how getting into WW2 fixed the Great Depression in the US.

But China manufactures a lot of stuff for the US. If the US goes to war with China, then I expect there will be a lot of inflation because they will have to redirect a bunch of manufacturing to other places.


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24 Jan 2017, 8:05 pm

EzraS wrote:
And for the record, every time someone criticized Obama while he was in office, his supporters always shifted blame to the republicans and or Bush.

And how they did!
Everything was Bush's fault according to them.


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24 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm

So, to recap.

When talking about Trump, his supporters deflect by blaming Obama for similar transgressions.

When talking about Obama, his supporters deflected by blaming Bush for similar transgressions.

Got it.



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24 Jan 2017, 8:36 pm

I think Putin would like for us to get into it with China.He's got Trump saddled and bridled.Gonna ride him like a fat little Shetland pony.


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24 Jan 2017, 11:54 pm

Raptor wrote:
EzraS wrote:
And for the record, every time someone criticized Obama while he was in office, his supporters always shifted blame to the republicans and or Bush.

And how they did!
Everything was Bush's fault according to them.


Right up to January 2017.



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25 Jan 2017, 12:04 am

Misslizard wrote:
I think Putin would like for us to get into it with China.He's got Trump saddled and bridled.Gonna ride him like a fat little Shetland pony.


Leftists keep contradicting themselves between describing Trump as being a megalomaniac narcissist sociopath dictator, to being a weak little puppet, fat little pony etc.

Those two are as mutually exclusive as it gets. They should make up your minds as to which path of sensationalism they want to take. Otherwise people might think they're just being kooky.



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25 Jan 2017, 12:20 am

Alas, I am await the day when everyone finally realises that presidents of corporate-nations are only but mere puppets, who are NOT the real decision-makers. Also, not to be an Obama-basher, but I must image-link...

redrobin62 wrote:
Here we go. EVERY TIME Trump gets criticized, one of his f*cking supporters start shifting blame to Obama or whomever. Stay on topic!!

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Misslizard wrote:
I think Putin would like for us to get into it with China.He's got Trump saddled and bridled.Gonna ride him like a fat little Shetland pony.

Putin is the only sane leader in the world right now who actually wants for there to be world-peace.


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25 Jan 2017, 1:33 am

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I think Putin would like for us to get into it with China.He's got Trump saddled and bridled.Gonna ride him like a fat little Shetland pony.


Leftists keep contradicting themselves between describing Trump as being a megalomaniac narcissist sociopath dictator, to being a weak little puppet, fat little pony etc.

Those two are as mutually exclusive as it gets. They should make up your minds as to which path of sensationalism they want to take. Otherwise people might think they're just being kooky.

Nope.You can be a dictator and a puppet.Think Banana Republic,not the store.The U.S.used to pull the strings on some of these.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état
I've always said that Trump is no match for Putin.Putin could eat him for breakfast and digest him by noon.


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25 Jan 2017, 2:53 am

Ban-Dodger wrote:
[color=Navy]Alas, I am await the day when everyone finally realises that presidents of corporate-nations are only but mere puppets, who are NOT the real decision-makers.


No they're not really. It's all an illusion to a degree. I'm not into conspiracy theories but even I believe that. Dynasties who have been controlling everything from the beginning aren't going to let someone who gets voted in every 4 to 8 years have all that much actual power.



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25 Jan 2017, 3:07 am

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I think Putin would like for us to get into it with China.He's got Trump saddled and bridled.Gonna ride him like a fat little Shetland pony.


Leftists keep contradicting themselves between describing Trump as being a megalomaniac narcissist sociopath dictator, to being a weak little puppet, fat little pony etc.

Those two are as mutually exclusive as it gets. They should make up your minds as to which path of sensationalism they want to take. Otherwise people might think they're just being kooky.

Nope.You can be a dictator and a puppet.Think Banana Republic,not the store.The U.S.used to pull the strings on some of these.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état


So Trump goes from being like Hitler in charge of the most powerful nation on earth to some stooge running a tiny third world country. I'm still seeing ridiculous extremes.

Misslizard wrote:
I've always said that Trump is no match for Putin.Putin could eat him for breakfast and digest him by noon.


Yes but unfortunately that just amounts to innuendo and sensationalism and continues to contradict Trump being on par with the likes of a global dominating dictator and Big Brother.



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25 Jan 2017, 7:40 am

China doesn't have the capability to fight a war against the US, it has limited means of force projection. It will be smart to try to isolate China, their neighbors are nervous too. India, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. Russia would be very important as a hedge against the Chinese. They should be more afraid of us than we are of them, China is a paper tiger. China is a much bigger threat than Russia.