Manatees taken off endangered species list

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01 Apr 2017, 6:19 pm

They are now Threatened. Also, tasty.

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01 Apr 2017, 8:02 pm

Will they still get protection? They breed pretty slowly and have a high mortality from boating accidents.

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01 Apr 2017, 8:26 pm

It depends on state enforcement. Florida residents who care about manatees are probably already organizing campaigns to save them, and some Florida residents are probably organizing barbecues. Some even want to save them so that they can eat more of them.

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01 Apr 2017, 8:29 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:

Threatened animals can still receive protection. Which organization lists them threatened? Is it the West Indian Manatee, a subspecies of it, or another species?

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01 Apr 2017, 8:34 pm

The EPA lists species as threatened. IDK, except that it's a Florida manatee. You can probably find an answer for that part fairly easily. Basically, as the EPA considers the species in more severe danger, they impose greater restrictions. As they loosen the restrictions, state law and regulations take over.

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01 Apr 2017, 8:41 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:

Some species can still get protected status if other threats are in play. I would hope the manatee gets the same protection. They breed really slowly. Slow breeding is a big thing that can wipe out a species. Weird fact about them they can die if the water temp is below 68 degrees Fahrenheit. Thanks for telling me.

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02 Apr 2017, 12:49 am

Yet another animal we can tell our grandchildren about that had been allowed to become extinct in our lifetime.

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02 Apr 2017, 5:58 am

I doubt people will let th manatee go extinct. It is so popular.

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02 Apr 2017, 9:15 am

It seems like their population has rebounded from a low of hundreds in the 1970s to consistently over 6000 in Florida. The Bald Eagle was at one time endangered but has recovered so much that it is not considered threatened any longer.

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02 Apr 2017, 9:19 am

Jacoby wrote:

I think the protection the bald eagle receives is part of it. Part of the problem is a lot of manatees are dying from cold water.

If you want something cut look up Snooty.

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02 Apr 2017, 1:10 pm

BettaPonic wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I think the protection the bald eagle receives is part of it. Part of the problem is a lot of manatees are dying from cold water.

Yes, they do require warmer water and with global warming they should get plenty of that so they should be able to be taken of the endangered list. That is, unless we're saying that global warming (climate change, or whatever it's called this week) is a hoax.
Just sayin...

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02 Apr 2017, 1:27 pm

Raptor wrote:

BettaPonic wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I think the protection the bald eagle receives is part of it. Part of the problem is a lot of manatees are dying from cold water.

Global warming does not cause the whole works to turn warm.

Manatees can die in tempatures under 68 degrees.

Winter still strikes their range.

Power plants in their range are closing. Manatees use power plants to have warm water. They used to migrate.

It is called climate change now because it messes with the average global tempatures. Some experts say that enough global warming could theoretically cause another ice age.

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02 Apr 2017, 1:47 pm

One problem with complex systems theory appears when you first start explaining it to someone. It sounds like a total load of hooey. It doesn't sit well with people who prefer simple explanations. .

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02 Apr 2017, 4:09 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:

One problem with complex systems theory appears when you first start explaining it to someone. It sounds like a total load of hooey. It doesn't sit well with people who prefer simple explanations. .

I get that. I personally hate simple explanations. I think people do not realize how delicate the biosphere is. Even the slightest change can cause a mass extinction.

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02 Apr 2017, 4:30 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:

They are now Threatened. Also, tasty.

I think it would be nicer of humans, not to powerboat through sensitive habitats.

But, the way this usually works is you can't do anything, ever.

I actually think it would be more conscientious, to farm and eat something, under humane conditions, than to concern-troll every last human activity and creature comfort.

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02 Apr 2017, 8:16 pm

Boating too fast and carelessly kills more manatees every month than I could eat in a year.

They probably don't differ much from drivers; each one believes themselves the Most Important Person in the World.

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