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First transgender superhero announced for The CW's 'Supergirl' Season 4

It annoys me, Supergirl is a decent show the constant politics is really annoying though.

Anyone who voted a billionaire real estate broker, who rants about the dangers of aliens, into Presidency would hate and loathe Superman and Supergirl for being invested in politics.

Wait... do you think the above paragraph was me talking about the show?

Nope - I was simply talking about Lex Luthor rather than Trump. Yes, Lex became President in the comics years ago and yes he is, undoubtedly, a billionaire real estate broker who rants about the dangers of aliens. It is partly why many of us comic geeks are joking that Earth Prime is real.

It’s unavoidable. Superman and Supergirl have always been a beacon of hope for IMMIGRANTS who have always fought against xenophobes. He and Kara are undocumented as well. It is built into the comic’s DNA. So no, Superman mythos shouldn’t avoid a subject it has always dealt with to appease Lex Luthor... excuse me, Donald Trump... voters.

As an alien from a war torn (third) world sent as a baby to America and adopted for my own protection - I wish that the Superman affiliated comics and shows would go even further than they currently are.

Not to pop more bubbles or anything but in canon Captain America is a liberal and Green Arrow is a - wait for it, wait for it - socialist.

YAY for Supergirl!

Well Kryptonian's are not immigrants they are not human so don't need documents. Basing politics on fantasy is also very stupid.

Actually, fantasy has provided politics with a vehicle to reach pop culture several times. As one of the writers of The Outer Limits had once said: "A Martian can say something that a Republican or a Democrat can't." Everything from civil rights to labor rights, women's rights to trans rights has found voice in the never-never land of fantasy and science fiction, with often successful results.

Basing one's views off media alone IS (which is why I don't, instead I'm a media creator or "propagandist" as some would comically call me), also thinking we writers of media don't depict our political beliefs in what we create is very, very stupid (doing so, as another has stated has typically led to successful results).

Stupidity would also include not knowing definitions of common terms such as "immigrant," lol. Hint: the proper definition is broad: "a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence." Any "proper" definition that would state "humans" or clarifying in some way that the being is not coming from outer space is hilarious since it implies we're already dealing with literal aliens. This is why throughout it has always easily applied to aliens throughout all forms of media, there is nothing in the definition that makes it exclusive to humans (since, why would there be lol).

Kryptonians do need documents - the comics, shows, and movies all dived into this. It is part of the reason why Jonathan and Martha have Clark maintain his secret identity - 'Smallville' went further with Jonathan and Martha needing to set up a fake adoption agency even - you don't know much about Superman (or comics in general) lore either, do you? Entire Superman arcs have revolved around his both citizenship and non-citizenship.

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Or wait until he discovers 'The Twilight Zone' lol, or that iconic movie franchises such as 'Planet Of The Apes' is all about politics. The dude walked into so many holes in a matter of just two sentences.

I applaud Supergirl. This has been long overdue.

At no point did I say fiction has never had a political message, but the constant politics done in a very poor way is annoying.

The fact that there were no laws against aliens residing in the US and that they were not legally classed as people means that Clark was neither an illegal immigrant nor a legal one.

I actually do know a decent amount about Superman lore. In Smallville the Kent's got fraudulent adoption documents from Lionel Luthor because they knew the government would not treat an alien as a person, which they don't in one episode where the government finds out Clark is an alien and seek to capture him.

Superman comics literally have comics that dive into Superman's citizenship and non-citizenship. So, what you are saying right now to try to back yourself up is that not only is Supergirl wrong - but, the comics are as well. In one comic - Action Comics, No. 900 to be exact - Superman decides to even renounce his United States citizenship.

The only thing anyone could fall back on for why the government wouldn't consider him an immigrant is: (1) they are unaware of Clark's country of birth, which allows (2) the "nationality act of 1940" which has a "foundling statute" which states, “a child of unknown parents is conclusively presumed to be a U.S. citizen if found in the United States when under 5 years of age, unless foreign birth is established before the child reaches age 21.”

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Clark's Citizenship was fraudulent thus illegal.

That one was in regards to Superman. The United States government gave him an honorary citizenship, which he accepted and later renounced since America was starting to lose its way. He decided to become a citizen of the world instead of pledging himself to only one country.

Right, Clark's is fraudulent and he would be considered "illegal."

Unless they knew he was an alien and thus would not be an illegal because laws do not apply to non humans.

In which case there would be new laws to handle immigrants from other worlds instead of other countries.

In case you didn't know, since it reads like you don't, "immigrant" isn't a legal term that's tied specifically to laws - it is a general term that is also used in a legal context.

Also, somebody would seriously need to be optimistic if they earnestly believe governments would treat immigrants from outer space easier than they do immigrants from other countries.

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