Alabama governor signs nation’s strictest abortion law

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15 May 2019, 5:52 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/05/15/alabama-gov-kay-ivey-signs-nations-most-restrictive-abortion-law.html

This is why people are flocking to the West Coast and Northeast, to escape the likes of Kay Ivey and Brian Kemp.


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15 May 2019, 6:16 pm

It may not seem very much like me, but I'm pro-life. Now before you go and tell me how I'm wrong, I want to tell you what exactly I think of abortions and the new legislation.

I'm against abortions because I see them as another form of eugenics if applied to disabilities like autism. My opinion doesn't necessarily have to do with a debate on whether an unborn baby can feel pain or not, but whether people would be willing to abort autistic babies if a prenatal test existed and essentially prevent them from ever existing again. In addition, I've researched abortions before posting here and found the procedures far too disturbing for me to want in my life, even with anesthetic. Those procedures sound very painful, but I mostly consider the pregnant person and not the unborn baby. I'll only consider an abortion if I got raped.

As for the Alabama abortion law, that is far too extreme for me to even want to live in Alabama. Georgia passed a "fetal heartbeat" law that wasn't even as severe as that one, and it's also in the South! Up to 99 years for doctors performing abortions?! OUTRAGEOUS!! And rape and incest cases were probably out of the question too!

TL;DR — The law is ridiculous, even though I'm pro-life.


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15 May 2019, 7:05 pm

And the governor signed it into law, despite less stringent restrictions being struck down by the courts.


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16 May 2019, 8:41 am

Other red states are considering strict abortion laws as well. I think the signing of the abortion law in Alabama was an attempt to switch things up politically.


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16 May 2019, 9:08 am

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16 May 2019, 9:13 am

It's highly prejudicial to women----and doesn't consider that women might become pregnant through no fault of their own.

I believe it is seen as being unenforceable----and is seen, primarily, as a test case to be employed in the attempt to overthrow Roe vs Wade in the Supreme Court.



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16 May 2019, 9:28 am

The irony is that some of the people who voted for Ivey voted against Roy Moore.


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16 May 2019, 9:32 am

IMHO, if people didn't feel ready to have children, they shouldn't have sexual relationships with each other. :roll:



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16 May 2019, 10:31 am

Televangelist Pat Robertson: Alabama abortion law 'has gone too far,' is 'ill-considered'

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Longtime televangelist Pat Robertson, who opposes abortion, criticized Alabama's near-total abortion ban that on Wednesday became the nation's most restrictive and one expected to face legal challenge.

"I think Alabama has gone too far," Robertson said Wednesday on "The 700 Club" before the bill was signed into law by Alabama's Republican Gov. Kay Ivey. "It's an extreme law."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 690680002/



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16 May 2019, 10:50 am

EzraS wrote:
Televangelist Pat Robertson: Alabama abortion law 'has gone too far,' is 'ill-considered'
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Longtime televangelist Pat Robertson, who opposes abortion, criticized Alabama's near-total abortion ban that on Wednesday became the nation's most restrictive and one expected to face legal challenge. "I think Alabama has gone too far," Robertson said Wednesday on "The 700 Club" before the bill was signed into law by Alabama's Republican Gov. Kay Ivey. "It's an extreme law."
What just happened? This is too surreal. Did I fall into the Twilight Zone? Did Bizarro Superman get ahold of the Infinity stones?

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16 May 2019, 1:25 pm

This is why people are leaving the GOP and red states in droves. People like Ivey, Kemp and DeWine are turning the current two-party system into a one-party one. There are still quite a few moderates in the GOP, but they can never make it past the primaries because they didn't kiss Trump's ass hard enough or mention Gawd(TM) a certain number of times.

And even the moderates who won nomination lost or were voted out in 2018. Even if you're a Republican who is pro-abortion, you're guilty by association.

(Mind you, I have a lot of issues with the left as well, and I don't want to Dems to go too far in that direction either)


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16 May 2019, 2:06 pm

The whole point of Alabama's blatantly horrible law is to get the case back to SCOTUS so they can strike down Roe v. Wade. Once that's done, they'll start working on criminalizing birth control.

None of this is about "the sanctity of life." It's about controlling and punishing women, and maintaining the white male stranglehold on social and political power in our country.

Women have been screaming about this danger since Trump got elected. We were patted on the head and told to calm down, that Roe v. Wade was "settled law" and we were just being hysterical. There was a huge increase in the number of women getting IUDs implanted, because we saw what was coming.

Hysteria my ASS.


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16 May 2019, 2:15 pm

It's about who has control over women's bodies, and whether or not men can enjoy their traditional privileges.



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16 May 2019, 2:49 pm

If I've said it once, I've said it 1000 times. Whatever you believe on abortion, understand that from the opposing point of view you are fundamentally incorrect.

If you believe that a human life begins at conception, then an abortion is a murder and should be outlawed

If you believe that a human life begins at birth than preventing abortion is mysogynistic coercion, and preventing it is a grave injustice.

Everyone draws there line somewhere and science can be used to support most of those lines. Personally I think abortion should be legal until 20 weeks, but I respect the view that it should be banned. I don't respect the rape/incest exceptions folks, because that's saying its ok to murder a baby if its the product of rape or incest.


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16 May 2019, 2:52 pm

Personally, I am a man, so the decision to legalize or criminalize abortion should not be mine to make.



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16 May 2019, 3:29 pm

No uterus, no opinion, unless you’re pro-abortion.

These laws are in effect because we allowed men to have opinions on abortion—knowing very well they form the crux of the opposition.


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