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01 Jun 2019, 3:39 am

Fresh from yesterday..

What is wrong with this guy?

He basically killed all his staff members involved in the Trump agreement which failed last month.



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01 Jun 2019, 4:03 am

I am woefully ignorant of Korean culture despite living in an area with a large Korean population, but the idea of executing a group of people you have chosen to serve you, who have failed, would not have seemed unusually harsh in earlier days in Japan. Except that in Japan, you would have expected these people to execute themselves (if they had any honor).


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01 Jun 2019, 4:10 am

Sounds like Kim has read Sun Tzu as well as The Art of the Deal.


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01 Jun 2019, 4:57 am

Seems like an admission that Trump was the better negotiator.


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01 Jun 2019, 5:19 am

Used to happen in England hundreds of tears ago... Henry VIII was pretty good at topping people who didn't measure up (including wives who didn't produce male heirs).

My view is that it's a result of absolute and unchallenged power vested in one individual. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Vlad the Impaler, Caligula, Saddam Hussein... and a long list of others. I haven't mentioned the Austrian guy... Adolf somebody or other because I don't want to be accused of Godwinism.

It would make an interesting area of study how they end up like that. Henry VIII started out as a shining renaissance prince. It's possible that constant pain from a jousting wound made him a little bit... grouchy. He even claimed that some of the things he did were forced on him by external pressures and circumstances... like the execution of Thomas Cromwell.

Kim, on the other hand was born into it... maybe inured to it at an early age... who knows?


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01 Jun 2019, 8:28 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Seems like an admission that Trump was the better negotiator.


The talks fell through, Trump gained nothing for the US, and Kim gave up nothing. So how was Trump a good "negotiator"?



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01 Jun 2019, 9:05 am

naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Seems like an admission that Trump was the better negotiator.


The talks feel through, Trump gained nothing for the US, and Kim gave up nothing. So how was Trump a good "negotiator"?


His supporters would think he was a great negotiator even when our entire country goes bankrupt and we wind up destroying the world in World War 3.


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01 Jun 2019, 9:33 am

Pretty much.

One WP member ranted and raved about how "liberals love Kim so much", or some pathetic nonsense like that. You get bone headed and hot headed individuals of every creed spouting embarrassing nonsense ("get your government hands OFF of my social security" or "even Kim would be a better potus than Trump"). But in the main no mainstream American conservative or liberal (while calm and colletected) expresses any love for Kim...except one person.

Soon after that WP person made that rant about liberals loving Kim, that WPers idol (Trump) made a speech about how HE (Trump) had "fallen in love" with Kim (and it was mutual). :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump of course being that "one person" who is the perverse exception to main stream American hatred of Kim.

But in all fairness Trump failures/successes with the Norks are neither worse/better than any previous POTUS.

There isn't much an American president can do about the Nork regime.

And I give Trump some credit: Trump cant deal with the Iranians because they are too democratic. Too much like our own Congress. But the Nork regime is like what Trump is used to dealing with: a corporation headed by a CEO who rules by fiat, and not by the rule of law. So the two leader probably do have some certain chemistry.



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01 Jun 2019, 10:20 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Pretty much.

One WP member ranted and raved about how "liberals love Kim so much", or some pathetic nonsense like that. You get bone headed and hot headed individuals of every creed spouting embarrassing nonsense ("get your government hands OFF of my social security" or "even Kim would be a better potus than Trump"). But in the main no mainstream American conservative or liberal (while calm and colletected) expresses any love for Kim...except one person.

Soon after that WP person made that rant about liberals loving Kim, that WPers idol (Trump) made a speech about how HE (Trump) had "fallen in love" with Kim (and it was mutual). :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump of course being that "one person" who is the perverse exception to main stream American hatred of Kim.

But in all fairness Trump failures/successes with the Norks are neither worse/better than any previous POTUS.

There isn't much an American president can do about the Nork regime.

And I give Trump some credit: Trump cant deal with the Iranians because they are too democratic. Too much like our own Congress. But the Nork regime is like what Trump is used to dealing with: a corporation headed by a CEO who rules by fiat, and not by the rule of law. So the two leader probably do have some certain chemistry.


I honestly can't figure out if the MAGAspies here on WP are being serious or if they're just trolling.

Either way you and I and some other people with common sense know that this country is becoming a cesspool. ;)


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01 Jun 2019, 2:59 pm

We’re not going to let our country become a cesspool. It’s far from being one now.



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01 Jun 2019, 3:05 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
We’re not going to let our country become a cesspool. It’s far from being one now.

I'm sorry but I disagree. I know you're just trying to be optimistic but we are a kakistocracy.


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01 Jun 2019, 5:21 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Seems like an admission that Trump was the better negotiator.


The talks fell through, Trump gained nothing for the US, and Kim gave up nothing. So how was Trump a good "negotiator"?


Uh it was the rat John Bolton that destroyed talks


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01 Jun 2019, 5:22 pm

Blood is on the hands of liberals who were getting hysterical about Trump meeting Kim


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01 Jun 2019, 6:08 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Seems like an admission that Trump was the better negotiator.


The talks fell through, Trump gained nothing for the US, and Kim gave up nothing. So how was Trump a good "negotiator"?


TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pretty much.

One WP member ranted and raved about how "liberals love Kim so much", or some pathetic nonsense like that. You get bone headed and hot headed individuals of every creed spouting embarrassing nonsense ("get your government hands OFF of my social security" or "even Kim would be a better potus than Trump"). But in the main no mainstream American conservative or liberal (while calm and colletected) expresses any love for Kim...except one person.

Soon after that WP person made that rant about liberals loving Kim, that WPers idol (Trump) made a speech about how HE (Trump) had "fallen in love" with Kim (and it was mutual). :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump of course being that "one person" who is the perverse exception to main stream American hatred of Kim.

But in all fairness Trump failures/successes with the Norks are neither worse/better than any previous POTUS.

There isn't much an American president can do about the Nork regime.

And I give Trump some credit: Trump cant deal with the Iranians because they are too democratic. Too much like our own Congress. But the Nork regime is like what Trump is used to dealing with: a corporation headed by a CEO who rules by fiat, and not by the rule of law. So the two leader probably do have some certain chemistry.


I honestly can't figure out if the MAGAspies here on WP are being serious or if they're just trolling.

Either way you and I and some other people with common sense know that this country is becoming a cesspool. ;)



Didn't say good, said better. Could have said Kim was better under different circumstances. That comes from looking at a situation or person without a whole bunch of feelings and emotion wrapped up in it or them.

Read and think about it again and maybe you will get past the usual "defending Trump" "Trump supporter" knee-jerk reaction.

Sometimes it seems like people don't really think, they just react.



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01 Jun 2019, 6:19 pm

They haven’t confirmed that these folks were actually executed.



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01 Jun 2019, 7:41 pm

Trueno wrote:
Used to happen in England hundreds of tears ago... Henry VIII was pretty good at topping people who didn't measure up (including wives who didn't produce male heirs).

My view is that it's a result of absolute and unchallenged power vested in one individual. Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Vlad the Impaler, Caligula, Saddam Hussein... and a long list of others. I haven't mentioned the Austrian guy... Adolf somebody or other because I don't want to be accused of Godwinism.

It would make an interesting area of study how they end up like that. Henry VIII started out as a shining renaissance prince. It's possible that constant pain from a jousting wound made him a little bit... grouchy. He even claimed that some of the things he did were forced on him by external pressures and circumstances... like the execution of Thomas Cromwell.

Kim, on the other hand was born into it... maybe inured to it at an early age... who knows?


I think you meant Thomas Crammer, England's Protestant reformer.


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