UPDATE, Iran shot it's own plane down

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09 Jan 2020, 3:11 pm

Canadian officials have intelligence from their own sources that shows that Ukrainian airlines flight 752 was shot down by an Iranian surface to air missile,it may have been unintentional.

European security officials told CNN they believe reports suggesting that the plane as shot down by an Iranian surface to air missile in error are credible.

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09 Jan 2020, 4:33 pm

Whatever happened to IFF?  Is that technology against Sharia Law?


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09 Jan 2020, 4:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
Whatever happened to IFF?  Is that technology against Sharia Law?


Maybe their system has Ukraine listed as infidels since they do business with Boeing?



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09 Jan 2020, 5:12 pm

I don't get it? how is the Ukrainian airlines "their own Plane" ?



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09 Jan 2020, 5:22 pm

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I don't get it? how is the Ukrainian airlines "their own Plane" ?


That gets into a wide conversation about speculation. Said Canadians have intelligence from their own sources. Could be from their satellites, could be from a computer hack, could be a Canadian stationed abroad, are several other "what ifs" for how Canada got information on an Iran/Ukraine affair.



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09 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm

Conspiracy theory?



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09 Jan 2020, 5:28 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Conspiracy theory?
Wait for John to log in...

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09 Jan 2020, 5:30 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Conspiracy theory?


I wasn't trying to start a debate about which theory is or isn't correct. I was just clarifying what I read "from their own sources" to probably mean. I honestly have no clue how the Canadians got their intelligence.



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09 Jan 2020, 5:35 pm

Ok...Sounds like more going on than meets the eye



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09 Jan 2020, 5:42 pm

Pictures just coming in via Australian news

Looks like an Iranian Missile is responsible for the crash
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 86ef4ee82b
Ottawa says suggests the airliner was mistakenly downed by an Iranian missile.
The Iranian foreign ministry invited the plane’s manufacturer Boeing to take part in the official enquiry into the crash.



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09 Jan 2020, 5:44 pm

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison told 2GB radio this morning that the plane tragedy was a “terrible accident”.
“I can confirm that we’ve had similar intelligence as our partners have.
“What I would say is that this is not a deliberate attack, as we can determine. It’s a terrible accident.



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09 Jan 2020, 5:51 pm

A quick recap:

• Iran sends it best general into a a foreign country where American armed forces are in control.
• The U.S. assassinates their general while he is in Iraq
• Iran holds a funeral for their general, and a subsequent stampede kills 60 Iranian citizens.
• Iran shoots missiles at a US airbase, misses all targets, there are no U.S. casualties, and minimal damage because some missiles had no warheads.
• Iran shoots down a Ukrainian passenger jet, killing 170 people on board.

Please tell me once again why we're supposed to be afraid of their alleged nuclear capability?


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09 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm

Fnord wrote:
A quick recap:

• Iran sends it best general into a a foreign country where American armed forces are in control.
• The U.S. assassinates their general while he is in Iraq
• Iran holds a funeral for their general, and a subsequent stampede kills 60 Iranian citizens.
• Iran shoots missiles at a US airbase, misses all targets, there are no U.S. casualties, and minimal damage because some missiles had no warheads.
• Iran shoots down a Ukrainian passenger jet, killing 170 people on board.

Please tell me once again why we're supposed to be afraid of their alleged nuclear capability?


Are you thinking that Iran has a couple of dozen employees with the same potential as Homer Simpson running the place?



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09 Jan 2020, 6:04 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
A quick recap:

• Iran sends it best general into a a foreign country where American armed forces are in control.
• The U.S. assassinates their general while he is in Iraq
• Iran holds a funeral for their general, and a subsequent stampede kills 60 Iranian citizens.
• Iran shoots missiles at a US airbase, misses all targets, there are no U.S. casualties, and minimal damage because some missiles had no warheads.
• Iran shoots down a Ukrainian passenger jet, killing 170 people on board.

Please tell me once again why we're supposed to be afraid of their alleged nuclear capability?
Are you thinking that Iran has a couple of dozen employees with the same potential as Homer Simpson running the place?

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09 Jan 2020, 6:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
A quick recap:

• Iran sends it best general into a a foreign country where American armed forces are in control.
• The U.S. assassinates their general while he is in Iraq
• Iran holds a funeral for their general, and a subsequent stampede kills 60 Iranian citizens.
• Iran shoots missiles at a US airbase, misses all targets, there are no U.S. casualties, and minimal damage because some missiles had no warheads.
• Iran shoots down a Ukrainian passenger jet, killing 170 people on board.

Please tell me once again why we're supposed to be afraid of their alleged nuclear capability?


You forgot the earthquake near their nuclear facility falling in the same time frame



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09 Jan 2020, 6:35 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
A quick recap:

• Iran sends it best general into a a foreign country where American armed forces are in control.
• The U.S. assassinates their general while he is in Iraq
• Iran holds a funeral for their general, and a subsequent stampede kills 60 Iranian citizens.
• Iran shoots missiles at a US airbase, misses all targets, there are no U.S. casualties, and minimal damage because some missiles had no warheads.
• Iran shoots down a Ukrainian passenger jet, killing 170 people on board.

Please tell me once again why we're supposed to be afraid of their alleged nuclear capability?


You forgot the earthquake near their nuclear facility falling in the same time frame


Actually two earthquakes.


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