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04 Feb 2020, 11:47 am

I don't think there's another thread on this which surprises me. There appears to have been a major error in a app used for the Democratic Iowa Caucasus. The result is we have no results and the entire thing is a fiasco.

Politically I think this good for Trump (look how incompetent the Democrats are), and Biden who was vulnerable to a momentum campaign of which there is no momentum from Iowa. I think it's bad for Sanders who by all reports was going to have a good night and catastrophic for any candidate banking on Iowa (Buttigieg, Klobuchar) to launch their campaigns into high gear.

I'm sure there will be some conspiracy theories, but I think the simplest explanation is a technical screwup using unproven technology in an election for the first time.


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04 Feb 2020, 11:56 am

It is being discussed in PPR, but not in a thread specifically about it.



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04 Feb 2020, 2:26 pm

Maybe people are getting election fatigue.


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05 Feb 2020, 1:52 am

Antrax wrote:
There appears to have been a major error in a app used for the Democratic Iowa Caucasus. The result is we have no results and the entire thing is a fiasco.


I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Iowa is not located in the Caucasus mountains :lol:



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05 Feb 2020, 2:25 am

Forget all that app BS! Paper ballots!! !


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05 Feb 2020, 3:57 am

1969: put men on the moon
2020: forget how to count

maybe mike judge had a point.

why is america obsessed with doing everything on their phones, online, all the time? why is nobody talking about how mayo pete funded (or is tied to) the company who made the app for the reporting?

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trump was the only winner here


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05 Feb 2020, 4:51 am

In an unrelated story, the Iowa caucus results were discovered on a server in Ukraine, two days ago.

I was just reading that Buttigieg's digital director is married to the wife of the CEO of Shadow that created the app. The company has many ties to the Clinton campaign and also to the Buttigieg campaign. And the company didn't want the DHS security team to review the app for security and other issues. Gotta wonder what's going on there.



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05 Feb 2020, 5:05 am

Shrapnel wrote:
In an unrelated story, the Iowa caucus results were discovered on a server in Ukraine, two days ago.

I was just reading that Buttigieg's digital director is married to the wife of the CEO of Shadow that created the app. The company has many ties to the Clinton campaign and also to the Buttigieg campaign. And the company didn't want the DHS security team to review the app for security and other issues. Gotta wonder what's going on there.


Yep. The DNC cheating again. What's new. Surprised they haven't blamed Russia yet :lol:


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05 Feb 2020, 5:12 am

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Yep. The DNC cheating again. What's new. Surprised they haven't blamed Russia yet :lol:

Vladimir Putin has issued the following statement on the Iowa caucuses:

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05 Feb 2020, 5:16 am

Lol :lol:


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05 Feb 2020, 5:56 am

Shrapnel wrote:
In an unrelated story, the Iowa caucus results were discovered on a server in Ukraine, two days ago.

I was just reading that Buttigieg's digital director is married to the wife of the CEO of Shadow that created the app. The company has many ties to the Clinton campaign and also to the Buttigieg campaign. And the company didn't want the DHS security team to review the app for security and other issues. Gotta wonder what's going on there.


Still beating the Ukrainian horse?


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05 Feb 2020, 5:59 am

Darmok wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Yep. The DNC cheating again. What's new. Surprised they haven't blamed Russia yet :lol:

Vladimir Putin has issued the following statement on the Iowa caucuses:

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I'd almost think you were rooting for Putin.
No, Russia isn't to blame for this. It's the reliance of untested, overly complicated technology by people who should know that paper ballots can't be beat is to blame.


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05 Feb 2020, 6:06 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
1969: put men on the moon
2020: forget how to count

maybe mike judge had a point.

why is america obsessed with doing everything on their phones, online, all the time? why is nobody talking about how mayo pete funded (or is tied to) the company who made the app for the reporting?

and what is this?

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trump was the only winner here


As someone who happily gets through life without smart phones or their devilish apps, I can't understand either.
As for the number of votes won by the Democrat candidates - - that's the first I've heard of that. Possibly a news service had accidentally - or maybe not so accidentally - inverted them.
But hey, Iowa led the way for our first black President. Maybe it'll ultimately give us our first (openly) gay President.


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05 Feb 2020, 6:22 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
In an unrelated story, the Iowa caucus results were discovered on a server in Ukraine, two days ago.

I was just reading that Buttigieg's digital director is married to the wife of the CEO of Shadow that created the app. The company has many ties to the Clinton campaign and also to the Buttigieg campaign. And the company didn't want the DHS security team to review the app for security and other issues. Gotta wonder what's going on there.


Still beating the Ukrainian horse?


Are you saying the the Iowa caucus results were not discovered on a server in Ukraine two days ago?



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05 Feb 2020, 6:32 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
In an unrelated story, the Iowa caucus results were discovered on a server in Ukraine, two days ago.

I was just reading that Buttigieg's digital director is married to the wife of the CEO of Shadow that created the app. The company has many ties to the Clinton campaign and also to the Buttigieg campaign. And the company didn't want the DHS security team to review the app for security and other issues. Gotta wonder what's going on there.


Still beating the Ukrainian horse?


Are you saying the the Iowa caucus results were not discovered on a server in Ukraine two days ago?


And which news source has revealed that?


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05 Feb 2020, 6:34 am

Fortunately they're in the politics business and not math teachers shortlisted for a high school.


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