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Beavis : "When i was born the doctor slapped my butt...and then he spanked my monkey , heh heh heh" 
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20 Mar 2020, 6:10 pm
Probably not semi-domesticated, just socialized to humans and prone to begging.
It's unlikely that we've done much in the way of selection and they likely don't show the physical changes stereotypical of intense selection for tame behaviour increased docility and tameness, coat color changes, reductions in tooth size, changes in craniofacial morphology, alterations in ear and tail form (e.g., floppy ears), more frequent and nonseasonal estrus cycles, alterations in adrenocorticotropic hormone levels, changed concentrations of several neurotransmitters, prolongations in juvenile behavior, and reductions in both total brain size and of particular brain regions. These show up in every mammal we've domesticated, but most importantly in the Russian experiments with red foxes and showed that those traits emerge even if behaviour is the only selection criteria.
The fact that they've become accustomed to begging for food tells me we still have f'd them up.
Two types of intelligence:
The monkeys are smart enough to learn to beg and understand it's likely to work.
Most of the rest of the animals don't understand they can manipulate us, but they're smart enough to not depend on notoriously unreliable humans.
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20 Mar 2020, 6:49 pm
Probably not semi-domesticated, just socialized to humans and prone to begging.
It's unlikely that we've done much in the way of selection and they likely don't show the physical changes stereotypical of intense selection for tame behaviour increased docility and tameness, coat color changes, reductions in tooth size, changes in craniofacial morphology, alterations in ear and tail form (e.g., floppy ears), more frequent and nonseasonal estrus cycles, alterations in adrenocorticotropic hormone levels, changed concentrations of several neurotransmitters, prolongations in juvenile behavior, and reductions in both total brain size and of particular brain regions. These show up in every mammal we've domesticated, but most importantly in the Russian experiments with red foxes and showed that those traits emerge even if behaviour is the only selection criteria.
The fact that they've become accustomed to begging for food tells me we still have f'd them up.
Two types of intelligence:
The monkeys are smart enough to learn to beg and understand it's likely to work.
Most of the rest of the animals don't understand they can manipulate us, but they're smart enough to not depend on notoriously unreliable humans.
Correct.
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