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21 Apr 2020, 7:40 pm

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Trump halts US immigration as global virus cases pass 2.5m
Donald Trump has suspended immigration in the US as Australia’s death toll grows with the passing of an elderly woman in Sydney and worldwide coronavi...


Presumably, some are going to have a problem with this.
I'd like to see any rational argument against this move.

Personally, I am in favour of it.
Some are talking about doing the same in Australia.
Less chance of re-infection,
More work for the locals.
Seems like a no-brainer. :wink:



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22 Apr 2020, 1:04 am

only for people seeking permanent status


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22 Apr 2020, 4:23 am

Who would pick now to immigrate to the U.S.?


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22 Apr 2020, 6:13 am

lol,
First accusations, I have seen, of xenophobia directed at Trump, on the news.
What took them? :mrgreen:



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22 Apr 2020, 6:16 am

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'Xenophobic scapegoating': Trump plan to ban immigration slammed

Confusion after Trump, without giving details, says he will 'temporarily suspend immigration' due to coronavirus.

United States President Donald Trump caused confusion and anger after saying in a late-night Monday tweet that he will "temporarily suspend immigration" due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Referring to the coronavirus, or "the Invisible Enemy", as well as "the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens", Trump tweeted that he will "be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!"

The president offered no other details at the time. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/ ... 15044.html


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22 Apr 2020, 6:24 am

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Trump's immigration order is toxic xenophobia. It's also smart politics. https://theweek.com/articles/910075/tru ... t-politics



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23 Apr 2020, 9:18 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Who would pick now to immigrate to the U.S.?

That’s what I was thinking.No jobs and a chance of getting sick.


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23 Apr 2020, 12:08 pm

If there are American citizens like me who can't get out & go to church or social gatherings because we'll get ourselves all sick, then I can totally get the idea of locking down the borders.

It makes sense. This stuff is serious business, and we don't want to share our sickness with new immigrants or travelers. Nothing says "Welcome to America!" like drowning in your own lung fluids.

Trump here is not being xenophobic; he's acting within authority and doing the right thing for a change.


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23 Apr 2020, 2:48 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Trump's immigration order is toxic xenophobia. It's also smart politics. https://theweek.com/articles/910075/tru ... t-politics


I could have predicted a quote like that with my eyes closed:

"The virus spread in the U.S. is 100% Trump's fault by not acting quick enough or completely enough!"

Breaking News: Trump halts U.S. Immigration

In 3, 2, 1......"Trump proves he's xenophobic! Shame on him for halting immigration to help stop the virus spread!"

You can't make it up.



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23 Apr 2020, 9:36 pm

Magna wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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Trump's immigration order is toxic xenophobia. It's also smart politics. https://theweek.com/articles/910075/tru ... t-politics


I could have predicted a quote like that with my eyes closed:

"The virus spread in the U.S. is 100% Trump's fault by not acting quick enough or completely enough!"

Breaking News: Trump halts U.S. Immigration

In 3, 2, 1......"Trump proves he's xenophobic! Shame on him for halting immigration to help stop the virus spread!"

You can't make it up.


Partisan nonsense, on both sides of the political divide, is ludicrous,
And amusing. :mrgreen:

Partisans tend to be oblivious of their lack of objectivity.
Go figure. <shrug>



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23 Apr 2020, 9:39 pm

Pepe wrote:
Magna wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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Trump's immigration order is toxic xenophobia. It's also smart politics. https://theweek.com/articles/910075/tru ... t-politics


I could have predicted a quote like that with my eyes closed:

"The virus spread in the U.S. is 100% Trump's fault by not acting quick enough or completely enough!"

Breaking News: Trump halts U.S. Immigration

In 3, 2, 1......"Trump proves he's xenophobic! Shame on him for halting immigration to help stop the virus spread!"

You can't make it up.


Partisan nonsense, on both sides of the political divide, is ludicrous,
And amusing. :mrgreen:

Partisans tend to be oblivious of their lack of objectivity.
Go figure. <shrug>


Agreed.



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23 Apr 2020, 9:58 pm

Enough to deal with right now... In addition to immigrating during a pandemic, how will they find a job, or apply for services? All the websites are either crashing due to volume, or just plain kicking the applicants out. I just can't imagine why anyone would be offended.


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23 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
Enough to deal with right now... In addition to immigrating during a pandemic, how will they find a job, or apply for services? All the websites are either crashing due to volume, or just plain kicking the applicants out. I just can't imagine why anyone would be offended.


TDS. :mrgreen:



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24 Apr 2020, 2:42 am

Trump being a xenophobic is nothing new. No fig leaf is going to change that he is, at heart, a bigot.

His stated justification doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. The virus is already in the US and resources need to be focused there. You are also already screening people at ports.

It’s not clear right now what the upcoming order actually does, or whether it will be legal. Does it stop people who are already in the US from applying for green cards or citizenship? It would seem rather difficult to put a public health benefit on such measures.



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24 Apr 2020, 3:13 am

quarantine + immigration = mutually exclusive



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24 Apr 2020, 3:20 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Trump being a xenophobic is nothing new. No fig leaf is going to change that he is, at heart, a bigot.

His stated justification doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. The virus is already in the US and resources need to be focused there. You are also already screening people at ports.

It’s not clear right now what the upcoming order actually does, or whether it will be legal. Does it stop people who are already in the US from applying for green cards or citizenship? It would seem rather difficult to put a public health benefit on such measures.


I find the progressive's hatred of Trump "fascinating".
This is beyond simple politics.