SCOTUS decision on Faithless electors

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06 Jul 2020, 9:17 am

In time for this year's election, SCOTUS just decided that states can force electoral college members to vote according to the results of the states vote, rather than using their own discression (faithless elector). Decision 9:0.
Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf



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06 Jul 2020, 9:30 am

Just to clarify:

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Three Washington electors, Peter Chiafalo, Levi Guerra, and Esther John (the Electors), violated their pledges to support Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election. In response, the State fined the Elec-tors $1,000 apiece for breaking their pledges to support the same can-didate its voters had. The Electors challenged their fines in state court, arguing that the Constitution gives members of the Electoral College the right to vote however they please. The Washington Superior Court rejected that claim, and the State Supreme Court affirmed, relying on Ray v. Blair, 343 U. S. 214. In Ray, this Court upheld apledge requirement—though one without a penalty to back it up. Rayheld that pledges were consistent with the Constitution’s text and our Nation’s history, id., at 225–230; but it reserved the question whether a State can enforce that requirement through legal sanctions.


Result: states are able to penalize faithless electors, and SCOTUS has indicated that electors do not have the right to vote as they please.

As a side note, the 3 electors listed above who should have voted for Hillary Clinton did not vote for Donald Trump, but instead for 3rd parties, as far as I can tell.



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06 Jul 2020, 12:03 pm

Very important news. While faithless electors have not come close to deciding an election in todays polarized atmosphere combined with the deteriorating quality of the candidates we can’t assume it will always be so.


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06 Jul 2020, 7:40 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Very important news. While faithless electors have not come close to deciding an election in todays polarized atmosphere combined with the deteriorating quality of the candidates we can’t assume it will always be so.


One part that wasn't addressed and which I am curious about, is the legality of states "forcing" the votes to go to the winner of the popular vote across the country rather than their individual state's results.

Based on a quick read of this, it would seem likely that this would not be legal (from top of page 3):
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And state election laws evolved to reinforce that development, ensuring that a State’s electors would vote the same way as its citizens.Washington’s law is only another in the same vein. It reflects a longstanding tradition in which electors are not free agents; they are to vote for the candidate whom the State’s voters have chosen. Pp. 13– 17.

I would guess that this would also be something that would be challenged and eventually head to SCOTUS should it occur (or look likely to occur).