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23 Sep 2020, 12:44 pm

Kentucky grand jury indicts 1 of 3 officers in fatal Breonna Taylor police shooting

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A Kentucky grand jury has indicted former Louisville police officer Brett Hankison on three counts of first-degree wanton endangerment in the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor.

The two other officers involved in the shooting, Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly and Detective Myles Cosgrove, were not indicted.

A wanton endangerment charge is a class D felony and carries a penalty of one to five years in prison. The charges read by Judge Annie O'Connell on Wednesday said that Hankison "wantonly shot a gun" into three apartments.

The judge set a $15,000 cash bond for Hankison.

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23 Sep 2020, 1:06 pm

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Kentucky grand jury indicts 1 of 3 officers in fatal Breonna Taylor police shooting

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Lousiville in a state of emergency in anticipation of this announcement

You got me,I was just going to post this.Let the first man win LOL

He should be happy,no murder charges,I would be relieved if I were him,he won't spend the rest of his life in jail,which for a cop is 23 hours a day in a cell.

If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

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23 Sep 2020, 5:57 pm

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If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

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23 Sep 2020, 6:03 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

And so the social unrest will continue...

I heard the decision would be made today and so after work I checked to see what the verdict was, and was more than a little disappointed.

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23 Sep 2020, 6:06 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

And so the social unrest will continue...

I heard the decision would be made today and so after work I checked to see what the verdict was, and was more than a little disappointed.

Meaning soon we will hear calls for more police violence since pouring gasoline on a fire is a surefire way to put it out by MAGA logic.

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23 Sep 2020, 8:18 pm

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Kentucky grand jury indicts 1 of 3 officers in fatal Breonna Taylor police shooting

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Lousiville in a state of emergency in anticipation of this announcement

Not a huge surprise: "no knock" warrant, with evidence (from a neighbour) that they knocked, followed by shot(s) fired at Police, who returned fire.

The charges for firing into a completely different residence to that from which the original shots came certainly make sense.

I had heard a rumour that Breonna may have fired a gun, rather than her boyfriend, but that seems unlikely to have happened according to the article.

It is interesting that had they operated as a "no knock" rather than knocking, Breonna may still be alive today, as her boyfriend would have been less likely to be in a position\have time to fire on the police (resulting in the return fire which hit her) before they were in the room with him.

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23 Sep 2020, 9:37 pm

Was the warrant fabricated or were they involved in drug deals?

The officer appears to have lied that Breonna was receiving drug packages though the mail.

"a Louisville postal inspector later told WDRB news that wasn't true"
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/n ... 648967002/

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23 Sep 2020, 9:58 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.

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23 Sep 2020, 10:59 pm

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As I understood it (I may be wrong), it was parcels sent to her address and addressed to her boyfriend (not her) which were suspected of containing drugs, as he was the target of the warrants, not her.

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23 Sep 2020, 11:01 pm

vermontsavant wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

vermontsavant wrote:

If I were Breonna Taylor's family I'd have mixed emotions,an indictment but not murder or even manslaughter.

The charges have nothing to do with her, they're about her neighbours. This is deeply disappointing, utterly nothing resembling justice for her has occurred yet.

Breanna Taylor died,how are charges not about her,am I missing something.

As I understand it, the only charges laid were related to one officer firing shots which went into a different appartment.

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23 Sep 2020, 11:04 pm

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What source did you hear that Bric?

Its funny but I suspect certain unnamed sources who are currently bending over backwards to defend Kyle Rittenhouse's right to defend himself with an armed weapon are likely the same ones doing a backflip and defending the cops here against the right of Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend's rights to stand their ground and defend their property against armed intruders.

If you read Ms Taylor's boyfriend's account he was extremely scared when the officers broke in fully armed, His response was entirely fair given the police bungling.

The apparent reluctant of the judiciary to act against the officers is likely going to end in more deaths and damage to public property in Kentucky,

Who knows...perhaps if Kyle Rittenhouse gets freed in time his "gun for hire services" might be in demand with some local militia thugs in Kentucky,

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23 Sep 2020, 11:23 pm

I think there's a wide gap between the public knowledge of the case and relevant law and the grand jury knowledge of the case and relevant law.

The difficulty is as a member of the general public it's difficult to know whether a court has failed to do its job, or whether the court has done its job perfectly and people just don't understand the circumstances/laws involved.

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23 Sep 2020, 11:34 pm

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Brictoria wrote:

What source did you hear that Bric?

Robert Barnes, I think, in one of his podcasts with Viva Frei. As I didn't have nay other source to confirm with, I didn't bother posting about it at the time.

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Its funny but I suspect certain unnamed sources who are currently bending over backwards to defend Kyle Rittenhouse's right to defend himself with an armed weapon are likely the same ones doing a backflip and defending the cops here against the right of Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend's rights to stand their ground and defend their property against armed intruders.

If you read Ms Taylor's boyfriend's account he was extremely scared when the officers broke in fully armed, His response was entirely fair given the police bungling.

The apparent reluctant of the judiciary to act against the officers is likely going to end in more deaths and damage to public property in Kentucky,

Who knows...perhaps if Kyle Rittenhouse gets freed in time his "gun for hire services" might be in demand with some local militia thugs in Kentucky,

You do seem to have a strange outlook on things...
In this case, a witness had confirmed that police had knocked and identified themselves as Police BEFORE entering (even though the warrant they had permitted unannounced entry).
In the second case (Kyle), he volunteered to help protect people's property from the sociopaths who were determined to cause destruction, as well as providing first aid to those very same sociopaths. It would be more accurate to refer to the rioting mob as "terrorists" than him as a "gun for hire" as you tend to imply.

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23 Sep 2020, 11:38 pm

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This is compounded by people pre-determining what they WANT the outcome to be and disregarding\ignoring\not looking for information which disagrees with what they wish to happen (or shows how their version of events was incorrect).

And then these people who intentionally ignored anything they disagree with get upset when the facts don't support their wishes.

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24 Sep 2020, 12:24 am

Brictoria wrote:

Robert Barnes, I think, in one of his podcasts with Viva Frei. As I didn't have nay other source to confirm with, I didn't bother posting about it at the time.

He was the Covington kid's defence lawyer. Interesting choice and fits in with the type of commentator who isn't going to natrually support breonna Taylor

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I thought they did a no-knock break in? who pulls a gun on somebody knocking on the door?

Brictoria wrote:

In the second case (Kyle), he volunteered to help protect people's property from the sociopaths who were determined to cause destruction, as well as providing first aid to those very same sociopaths. It would be more accurate to refer to the rioting mob as "terrorists" than him as a "gun for hire" as you tend to imply.

Well that's yet to be 100% confirmed to be true Bric

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24 Sep 2020, 1:02 am

cyberdad wrote:

Brictoria wrote:

Robert Barnes, I think, in one of his podcasts with Viva Frei. As I didn't have nay other source to confirm with, I didn't bother posting about it at the time.

He was the Covington kid's defence lawyer. Interesting choice and fits in with the type of commentator who isn't going to natrually support breonna Taylor

I suppose a civil rights attorney wouldn't have any interest in a civil rights case, would they?

You may want to research these things before making unfounded assumptions...
https://www.barneslawllp.com/about

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Brictoria wrote:

I thought they did a no-knock break in? who pulls a gun on somebody knocking on the door?

Again, an effort at researching this would have shown that they HAD a no-knock warrant, but decided to knock and announce instead.

Her boyfriend claimed that he hadn't heard the knocking or announcement (hence his firing at the police), whilst the neighbours did hear it.

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Brictoria wrote:

Well that's yet to be 100% confirmed to be true Bric

The best information\facts that we have is an interview of him saying that, and footage of him there performing first aid for some rioters. Strangely, there hasn't been any evidence to support accusations of his being a "gun for hire"... For a start, you need to be able to substantiate the "for hire" part, as well as provide facts supporting an assertion he was not there for the reasons he supplied in the interview at the time.

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