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11 Jan 2021, 4:52 am

Coup at the capitol, I mean.

Even a layman like me questioned their involvement live in the moment.. like, uh, they’re not even trying to stop people.

International experts agree:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-a ... ice-2021-1

I suspect that the cop that killed himself couldn’t live with the guilt of having been involved in such a stupid plot for insane reasons. Maybe not - but I bet that’s why he offer himself. Didn’t wanna face the music.


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11 Jan 2021, 5:30 pm

... actually, this appears to have some merit:

1 officer (unknown affiliation) arrested, 2 Capitol police officers (including Selfie Cop) suspended:
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5337 ... ng-capitol

2 police officers from Seattle Suspended:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/seattle ... d=75148057

1 police officer from Anne Arundel County, Maryland, suspended:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/anne-arunde ... pitol-riot



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11 Jan 2021, 6:38 pm

Maybe the cops can cut out the middle man and arrest themselves :lol:

I mean no wonder they were dragging their feet during the MAGA takeover of the capital building



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11 Jan 2021, 7:06 pm

Merit indeed. Cops all over the country are being investigated for their participation:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics ... index.html

All the guilty ones should be jailed.


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11 Jan 2021, 7:25 pm

More damning evidence, including off duty cops flashing their badges tellin capitol police “We’re doing this for you.” Lol wow, umm, no.. domestic terrorists attacking the capitol building & capitol police most certainly wasn’t doing anything for them..

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/surpris ... 00845.html

Little surprise that some of the white supremacist members of Vanilla Isis are in fact American law enforcement officers. :roll:


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11 Jan 2021, 7:26 pm

Some of the Capitol Police had to be in on this thing.....



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11 Jan 2021, 7:33 pm

Going after the individual cops involved is one thing, but someone needs to look at their superiors / the general culture within the police. Because if these cops thought that what they were doing was OK and did not believe they would lose their jobs over it - what does that say about the prevailing culture within their organisation?



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11 Jan 2021, 7:37 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Some of the Capitol Police had to be in on this thing.....


Witnesses saw cops "courteously" opening doors for the protesters as they were leaving, They were curiously amenable.



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11 Jan 2021, 7:41 pm

Of course you have to go after their superiors!

It's like going after the drug addicts, the drug dealers, the druglords.



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11 Jan 2021, 7:54 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Of course you have to go after their superiors!

It's like going after the drug addicts, the drug dealers, the druglords.


That hasn't worked terribly well for BLM in terms of changing police culture.



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11 Jan 2021, 8:09 pm

I suppose this is why it was worthwhile electing a prosecutor as VP. :(


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11 Jan 2021, 8:18 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Of course you have to go after their superiors!

It's like going after the drug addicts, the drug dealers, the druglords.


But will they do it?
The articles so far have been talking about internal police investigations of individuals, but we need an external investigation of the Capitol police at the highest level.
If they are Federal Police reporting to Trump, he won't instigate an investigation, so who will?



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11 Jan 2021, 8:21 pm

So far two cops suspended and 10 under investigation
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... o-n1253822



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11 Jan 2021, 9:07 pm

That's why I just said----investigate the organization, too.

By the way, there's no "national police" in the United States. The Capitol Police only has jurisdiction over the area surrounding the Capitol building.

The closest thing to a "national police" in the United States is the FBI.



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11 Jan 2021, 9:14 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's why I just said----investigate the organization, too.

By the way, there's no "national police" in the United States. The Capitol Police only has jurisdiction over the area surrounding the Capitol building.

The closest thing to a "national police" in the United States is the FBI.


Ok in Australia our intelligence agency is quite seperate from our "federal police"



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11 Jan 2021, 9:27 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Coup at the capitol, I mean.

Even a layman like me questioned their involvement live in the moment.. like, uh, they’re not even trying to stop people.

International experts agree:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-a ... ice-2021-1

I suspect that the cop that killed himself couldn’t live with the guilt of having been involved in such a stupid plot for insane reasons. Maybe not - but I bet that’s why he offer himself. Didn’t wanna face the music.


It sounds like the article was "Feeding the Cooks", to make money.
I can't take what happened at Capitol Hill as a serious attempt at a coup.
All it could have done was to postpone the ratification of the new President.

Also, I thought the government security agencies were *anti-trump*, based on revelations of what happened with "russia-gate" .

goldfish21 wrote:
Merit indeed. Cops all over the country are being investigated for their participation:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics ... index.html

All the guilty ones should be jailed.

And half a dozen innocent ones, also. [joke] :mrgreen: