White kids not "racially innocent" according to green counci

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Apparently a local authority ran by the Green party has plans to introduce new anti-racism education plans where young kids are told they are not "racially innocent" because of their white skin. What I can only assume is they will be told they are "racially guilty" of something for being white despite being young kids who are guilty of nothing.

Source from the daily mail (I know but before you ask it's also available on The Telegraph but it's behind a paywall)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10457131/amp/Fury-children-young-seven-told-not-racially-innocent.html

I think it means they have already learned racist tropes by that age. They've lost the neutral innocence that they were born with and have learned how people around them act towards people of different races.

Kids that young have no idea what race even truly means.

Yeah every white kid is racist at birth because they don't know about history and systemic racism in place and the discrimination of minorities they face in their life time.

This is a way for people to take them less seriously about racism. Also if anyone had told me as a kid that I am racist because of my skin color, I would have thought they were lying to me or an idiot.

And kids learning to attach things to skin color young as five, wow I must be special because I never even thought that way. I used to wonder why were some kids brown or light brown and stuff and the answer always was "some people are born that way."

And I agree that we shouldn't be told that race doesn't mean anything. I grew up in a color blind society where everyone was equal but this didn't erase the fact about systemic racism. There were lot of things I was unaware about other than I knew about slavery and segregation but what I didn't know was that black people had an disadvantage and were still struggling from it, and every time I ran into racism online, I would just use the click button because it was so boring to read.

Yeah the history in the UK is different. It's not black and white (no pun intended). The most economically deprived areas of the UK are usually the most white.

I think the home secretary has already warned authorities responsible for education that automatically assuming "white privilege" is not only racist but more often than not wrong.

Going to the Welsh valleys or the north of England will make it pretty clear.

Well when I was little I definitely heard my grandpa use the word W*g. And I had a storybook called Little Black S*mb*. So I was definitely around racist terms. I'm a bit older than you guys though. My Mum did tell me not too call the kid in the book Black S*mb*. "No one would call you Little White Hurtloam", she said. She was halfway there. S*mb* wasn't his name, it's a racist slur. She threw the book out at some point.

Just remembered that a girl at school called our Asian nurse a slur and I repeated it at home when Grange Hill was on TV refering to the black kid, Benny Green. I got told off for that and told never to use that term again.

We know young that there are different people and that others refer to them in derogatory ways.

I remember our school maths book using ethnic names for the children in the maths problems and thinking, "why can't they have normal names."

I was in a small village school in a non-diverse location.

My goodness I've just remembered even Marmalade was racist when I was a kid.

We are certainly exposed to things young. To say we're not is blind.

I was in a similar non-diverse location growing up. The only black kid on school was actually well regarded. Everyone used to seek his advice on video games especially and he was in the mid to upper echelons of the pecking order throughout infants to comprehensive school.

Since when was marmalade racist?

Robertson's Marmalade mascott was a Golly. I used to collect the vouchers so I could get a brooch pin. I think my mum threw that out too.

Of course I had no ill will towards the little guy, but I now know how loaded the term used to name him is and how offensive the caracature is.

I was innocent, but tainted by the older generations outdated prejudice.

Everything you mentioned I never even heard of growing up. The first slur I ever heard was the N word and I was 12 because my 9 year old brother asked our mom about it because it was in a book at his school and his teacher skipped the word and used a different word. That sparked confusion. The teacher said "talk to your parents about it." Then when I was 13, my dad was listening to some talk show host and someone was fired for using the word "China***" and I asked my dad why and he said it was bad as saying the N word.

In high school I heard the term "Redsk***" and I was told it was bad as the N word. But I lived in a Native American area where 27% were native. Pow wows were common too.

I can say that I remember a political debate about if we should change our mascot and the name of our sports and 15 year old me thought how is our name offensive, we live on a Indian Reservation where lot of us are Native and people are offended by our Indian mascot and Chiefs? Luckily the votes won for the mascot to stay and name to stay. Now being more educated, I guess this came off as culture appropriation. Reason why I didn't want the change was because I hate changes and like things to stay the same. To this day, the name is still there and their mascot.

That's the first time I heard of a Golly being used to advertise a product. Nobody my age seems to have ever mentioned it.

The Gollywog is a black caricature that many kids are oblivious to these days and is actually pretty rare to see. Even if seen today, it's usually as a dated historical artifact.

I'm so old...

I'm glad things have changed and you younger folks have no idea about this stuff.

Yeah I never heard of none of this stuff as a kid because I was never around it. I didn't even know monkey was used as a slur until I was in my twenties but then again I never heard it used that way growing up and didn't know it even existed. I have heard of the phrase "cute little monkey" and it was in the Junie B Jones book but it was never about a black person, she overheard an adult saying it about her baby sibling and she took it literal thinking her new baby sibling was an actual monkey. The principal had to correct her and tell her she meant her baby sibling was real cute, didn't mean mean her mom had an actual monkey she gave birth too.

And there is racism in old Disney cartoons and animated films and Warner Bros. but I will tell you a kid is not going to pick up this stuff and then internalize it because I sure didn't. I just never connected anything to race or culture or nationality. Like how black characters would look like different creatures in old cartoon films but I never thought "oh black people are not human and they are just a different specie." Instead I just knew the cartoons were make believe and I just thought the animators decides to make their characters weird looking and I never connected to skin color. Kids are naïve.

Probably because boomers decided to raise their kids to be racially color blind as a way to end racism but minority activists say this is just as bad as racism and doesn't end the problem.

I went to a South Wales infants school with almost entirely white pupils and even in 1996 a pupil was scalded for calling a light pink pencil a "flesh" coloured pencil.

Throughout my entire school life, the Golly was never mentioned or any racist stereotypes. The slave trade was taught to the entire year group in 2002 and the American civil rights movement in 2004 both in history and religious education.