Person whose post started Haitians eat pets speaks

Page 1 of 2 [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,866
Location: Long Island, New York

13 Sep 2024, 7:27 pm

’It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians

Quote:
The woman behind an early Facebook post spreading a harmful and baseless claim about Haitian immigrants eating local pets that helped thrust a small Ohio city into the national spotlight says she had no firsthand knowledge of any such incident and is now filled with regret and fear as a result of the ensuing fallout.

“It just exploded into something I didn’t mean to happen,” Erika Lee, a Springfield resident, told NBC News on Friday.

Lee recently posted on Facebook about a neighbor’s cat that went missing, adding that the neighbor told Lee she thought the cat was the victim of an attack by her Haitian neighbors.

Newsguard, a media watchdog that monitors for misinformation online, found that Lee had been among the first people to publish a post to social media about the rumor, screenshots of which circulated online. The neighbor, Kimberly Newton, said she heard about the attack from a third party, NewsGuard reported.

Newton told Newsguard that Lee’s Facebook post misstated her story, and that the owner of the missing cat was “an acquaintance of a friend” rather than her daughter’s friend. Newton could not be reached for comment.

Lee said she had no idea the post would become part of a rumor mill that would spiral into the national consciousness. She has since deleted the Facebook post.

Other posts have also contributed to the false allegations, including a photo of a man holding a dead goose that was taken in Columbus, Ohio, but was spread by some online as evidence of the claims about Springfield. Graphic video of a woman who allegedly killed and tried to eat a cat was also found not to have originated in Springfield but in Canton, Ohio, and does not have any connection to the Haitian community.

Local police and city officials have repeatedly said there is no evidence of such crimes in Springfield, but that hasn’t stopped the lies from spreading across the country and igniting a national frenzy that landed on the presidential debate stage this week. Former President Donald Trump and his running mate Ohio Sen. JD Vance, who was born less than an hour away from Springfield, have repeated the baseless allegations.

Lee said she never imagined her post would become fodder for conspiracy theories and hate.

“I’m not a racist,” she said through heavy emotion, adding that her daughter is half Black and she herself is mixed race and a member of the LGBTQ community. “Everybody seems to be turning it into that, and that was not my intent.”

The anti-immigrant fervor in Springfield led to school and municipal building closures on Thursday and Friday after city officials received bomb threats.

Lee said she pulled her daughter out of school and is now worried about her safety with so much attention on her family. She is also concerned for the safety of the Haitian community, which she said she did not intend to villainize en masse.

“I feel for the Haitian community,” she said. “If I was in the Haitians’ position, I’d be terrified, too, worried that somebody’s going to come after me because they think I’m hurting something that they love and that, again, that’s not what I was trying to do.”

Immigrant advocacy groups have said these kinds of claims can be dangerous.

“The Haitian-American community in Springfield, OH and around the country is feeling targeted and unsafe because dehumanizing, debunked and racist conspiracies are being advanced at the highest levels of American politics and are still being repeated,” Vanessa Cárdenas, executive director of America's Voice, a nonprofit that advocates for immigration refor said in an email. “The false claim that Black immigrants are violently attacking American families by stealing and eating their pets is a powerful and old racist trope that puts a target on people’s backs, and it is turbo-charged in the era of MAGA when political violence has become commonplace and we have already witnessed violent incidents incited by such rhetoric.”


Bomb threats force second consecutive day of school closures in Springfield, Ohio
Quote:
Bomb threats on Friday forced the evacuation and closure of public schools and municipal buildings for a second consecutive day, as the city continues to deal with sudden national attention because of false claims involving its Haitian population.

Students at Perrin Woods and Snowhill Elementary Schools in Springfield "were evacuated from their buildings to an alternate district location," school district spokesperson Jenna Leinasars said.

Roosevelt Middle School was "closed prior to the beginning of the school day" in relation to the information received from the Springfield Police Department, Leinasars added.

In addition to those school evacuations, several city commissioners and a municipal employee were the target of an emailed bomb threat, city spokesperson Karen Graves said.

A second email threatened multiple locations that included Springfield City Hall, Cliff Park High School, Perrin Woods Elementary School, Roosevelt Middle School, the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and the Ohio License Bureau Southside, Graves added.

"As a precaution, all affected buildings have been evacuated. Authorities, with the support of explosive detection canines, have conducted thorough inspections and cleared the facilities listed in the threats," Graves said in a statement.

Local police and FBI agents based in Dayton are working "to determine the origin of these email threats," the city official said.


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

13 Sep 2024, 9:50 pm

Wait isn't this terrorism against US citizens of Haitian background?
Shouldn't there be hate crime charges like the legislation cobbled together for Asian Americans?



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

13 Sep 2024, 10:40 pm

trump's bestie, Laura Loomer also had a role in spreading this conspiracy. Loomer is so extreme that racist conspiracy peddler Marjorie taylor Greene has rebuked her.



Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,569
Location: Hagerstown, MD

14 Sep 2024, 7:56 am

Unfortunately this will do very little to stop Maga idiots from continuing to run away with it.


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.

If my darkness or eccentricness offends you, I don't really care.

I will not apologize for being me.


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

14 Sep 2024, 6:32 pm

At this stage even if trump says pink fairies are in cahoots with democrats and selling military secrets to ISIS, 75 million would still vote for him.



lostonearth35
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Jan 2010
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,647
Location: Lost on Earth, waddya think?

15 Sep 2024, 12:07 am

"Never meant to". what a load of garbage. It's even worse than that litter box rumor, which the naturally brain dead politicians also believed.

The US is doomed, have a nice day.



JamesW
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

Joined: 26 Jan 2023
Gender: Male
Posts: 336

15 Sep 2024, 12:32 pm

Let's not be distracted by the fact that this person imagines themselves to be the instigator of this thing. They aren't. It's a centuries-old racist trope.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -immigrant



funeralxempire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 39
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 29,049
Location: Right over your left shoulder

15 Sep 2024, 7:02 pm


_________________
When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become king, the palace becomes a circus.
"Many of us like to ask ourselves, What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you're doing it. Right now." —Former U.S. Airman (Air Force) Aaron Bushnell


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 48,434
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

15 Sep 2024, 7:20 pm

We shouldn't let the Nazi group, Blood Tribe, off the hook, as they had exploited the story to spread racial fear and hate. It was from their posts that Trump, Vance, and Loomer had picked up on the story and ran with it.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

16 Sep 2024, 12:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
We shouldn't let the Nazi group, Blood Tribe, off the hook, as they had exploited the story to spread racial fear and hate. It was from their posts that Trump, Vance, and Loomer had picked up on the story and ran with it.


I'm not sure the lady who started the rumor was a Nazi.
https://www.newsweek.com/springfield-wo ... ut-1953851
She sounds like she regrets how it all started.

Also the idea is an old American Urban legend that predates trump and Nazism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartande ... an-legend/



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 48,434
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

16 Sep 2024, 1:18 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
We shouldn't let the Nazi group, Blood Tribe, off the hook, as they had exploited the story to spread racial fear and hate. It was from their posts that Trump, Vance, and Loomer had picked up on the story and ran with it.


I'm not sure the lady who started the rumor was a Nazi.
https://www.newsweek.com/springfield-wo ... ut-1953851
She sounds like she regrets how it all started.

Also the idea is an old American Urban legend that predates trump and Nazism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartande ... an-legend/


She isn't, but it was Blood Tribe that had posted their racist slime about Haitian immigrants on Twitte... I mean X after learning the story. It was through them that Trump, Vance, and Loomer had picked up this racist hoax and ran with it.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


CockneyRebel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 116,820
Location: In my little Olympic World of peace and love

16 Sep 2024, 4:24 am

We all know who would continue on with the story. Racist Trump.


_________________
The Family Enigma


JamesW
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

Joined: 26 Jan 2023
Gender: Male
Posts: 336

16 Sep 2024, 9:55 am

cyberdad wrote:
I'm not sure the lady who started the rumor was a Nazi.


I'm quite sure she isn't.

I don't use social media, but I still get all kinds of wacko garbage sent to me by email, WhatsApp, etc. by friends who happen to have seen it on social media. These friends are not Nazis either, nor are they racists, homophobes, misogynists, toxic males, anti-vaxxers, medical/pharma/crypto grifters, etc, or any other of the nasty fringe elements that the stuff they're sending on actually comes from.

Like this lady, they have committed no sin other than the fact that they've been getting their news from social media.

Nobody should ever get their news from social media.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

16 Sep 2024, 6:15 pm

JamesW wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I
I don't use social media, but I still get all kinds of wacko garbage sent to me by email, WhatsApp, etc. by friends who happen to have seen it on social media. These friends are not Nazis either, nor are they racists, homophobes, misogynists, toxic males, anti-vaxxers, medical/pharma/crypto grifters, etc, or any other of the nasty fringe elements that the stuff they're sending on actually comes from.


Many of the Qanon adherents are regular normal people.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

16 Sep 2024, 6:15 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
She isn't, but it was Blood Tribe that had posted their racist slime about Haitian immigrants on Twitte... I mean X after learning the story. It was through them that Trump, Vance, and Loomer had picked up this racist hoax and ran with it.


If the claims serve their agenda then of course they will circulate and re-post it.



Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,569
Location: Hagerstown, MD

16 Sep 2024, 6:34 pm

JamesW wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm not sure the lady who started the rumor was a Nazi.


I'm quite sure she isn't.

I don't use social media, but I still get all kinds of wacko garbage sent to me by email, WhatsApp, etc. by friends who happen to have seen it on social media. These friends are not Nazis either, nor are they racists, homophobes, misogynists, toxic males, anti-vaxxers, medical/pharma/crypto grifters, etc, or any other of the nasty fringe elements that the stuff they're sending on actually comes from.

Like this lady, they have committed no sin other than the fact that they've been getting their news from social media.

Nobody should ever get their news from social media.


Reminds me of a quote from that South Park episode where Mark Zuckerberg came to town. "That's not news, you read that on Facebook!"


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.

If my darkness or eccentricness offends you, I don't really care.

I will not apologize for being me.