Everyone is too doomer about Florida

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So a storm is going to hit and I see it on here and on Reddit - "HOW CAN ANYONE MOVE TO FLORIDA AND BE SO STOOOOOOPID."


The total cost of hurricanes since 1980 is $1.3 Trillion. (https://coast.noaa.gov/states/fast-facts/hurricane-costs.html#:~:text=Of%20the%20363%20billion%2Ddollar,of%20%2422.8%20billion%20per%20event.)

The total number of deaths is 6,890 since 1980.

"Of the 363 billion-dollar weather disasters since 1980 (as of August 2023), tropical cyclones (or hurricanes) have caused the most damage: over $1.3 trillion total, with an average cost of $22.8 billion per event. They are also responsible for the highest number of deaths: 6,890 since 1980."

That is about 6-8 weeks of auto fatalities. $1.3 trillion seems like a lot but auto accidents cost ~$350 billion annually (https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/traffic-crashes-cost-america-billions-2019) - I added to the number because it was from 2019. How much do you think that was since 1980?

My point is no one is flipping out over anyone getting in the car and going for a drive. But most take that risk daily. Yet people are trying to shame Floridians for taking on MUCH less risk and costing others MUCH less than car drivers.

Save your freak outs for things that make sense. The total GDP of Florida was $1.3 Trillion in 2022 (https://usafacts.org/metrics/gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state-florida/#:~:text=In%202022%20(most%20recent)%2C,States%20for%20Florida%20(state).)

Even $150 billion in damage is about 10% of one years GDP. That is hardly a reason to abandon a whole state.

You don't go, "oh I could make 100 dollars but occasionally I have to pay $15 so I won't do it."

Are you aware of climate change? Florida is going to become increasingly uninhabitable and many properties, especially in coastal areas, will be a total loss.

There are also insidious problems, like the building that collapsed a few years ago in part because seawater has been insinuating itself into the ground. Now many buildings have to be upgraded and no one has or wants to spend the money to do it.

Yes, there are areas that are less susceptible, but there are domino effects that will be far reaching.

I don't know if you've ever been through a hurricane but the worst of it is not the unlikely loss of life or even the property damage, which can be repaired, if you can afford it. (Insurance is becoming less available and more expensive.) It's the enormous stress of dealing with the conditions brought by the hurricane: the howling winds, falling trees and limbs, parts of homes being ripped apart, no power for sometimes long stretches, sometimes no phone service, long lines for supplies and sometimes supplies being outright unavailable, clogged roads when trying to evacuate, sometimes no gas, and on and on. Living through a hurricane is no picnic.

Eh, long term you’ll figure it out.

Especially if the caps on flood insurance get lifted and you start having to actually pay for actual risk rather than a heavily subsidized version.

Or if your home insurance skyrockets because the state removes caps in order to keep the relatively few private insurance companies left from leaving and you have to actually pay proper market rates.

Or if you bought in to an HOA and your HOA or condo fees become completely untenable due to a massive reassessment that’s all the rage these days in FL due to decades of neglect and/or a massive insurance hike.

It’s your life, your money, your decision. But there is no way you will ever convince me that buying in FL is a wise decision.

Last night I was reading about the Chicago Fire and how there had been a lot of fires in the mid western US during that time. Apparently there was a drought and many fires could have been started by things like lightening, but mostly human carelessness. But that doesn't really change how I feel about the climate crisis.

Today I was checking the weather network, I was curious to see what the weather would be like for the trick-or-treaters tomorrow, and I got treated to a lovely video saying there's been an outbreak of flesh-eating bacteria in Florida since the hurricanes. I haven't heard much about necrotizing fasciitis since the late 90s, when they wouldn't stop talking about it and it did not help my doomsday anxiety.

All I wanted was to see what the weather was going to be like for Halloween, and instead I get freaking Armageddon.

Oh, and I think the weather will be quite mild for the trick-or-treaters. Which is good because it could be the last time they get to celebrate Halloween.

I read that there was a shooting during the Halloween celebrations in Orlando.

Real live human beings are so much more terrifying than the imaginary undead creatures such as ghosts and zombies.

How many times do people have to rebuild their homes after a hurricane before they realize that building a home where hurricanes are common is not a good idea?

There’s a reason they’re called “Floridiots”.

I read on Hatewatch that hate groups in Florida attempted to ban over 2,500 books from public libraries in 2023.
Because obviously those books harm people. But not guns.

Florida is part of the Deep South. And if the Deep South had its way, slavery would still be legal, women wouldn't be allowed to vote or do anything else, and LGBT+ people would all be executed.

Looks like they're going to get their wish.