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Yesterday, 4:37 pm

British police charge comedian Russell Brand with rape and sexual assault

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LONDON (AP) — British police on Friday charged Russell Brand with rape and sexual assault following an 18-month investigation sparked when four women alleged they had been assaulted by the controversial comedian.

London’s Metropolitan Police force said Brand, 50, faces one count of rape, one of indecent assault, one of oral rape and two of sexual assault.

Brand denied engaging in “non-consensual” sexual activity.

The alleged offenses involve four women and took place between 1999 and 2005 — one in the English seaside town of Bournemouth and the other three in the Westminster area of central London.

Police said the investigation remains open and urged anyone with relevant information to contact the force.

In September 2023, British media outlets Channel 4 and the Sunday Times published claims by four women of being sexually assaulted or raped by Brand. The accusers have not been identified.

The comedian, author and “Get Him To The Greek” actor has been interviewed by police about the allegations, which he denies.

In a video posted Friday on X, Brand said “I’ve never engaged in non-consensual activity. I pray that you can see that by looking in my eyes.”

He added that “I am now going to have the opportunity to defend these charges in court and I’m incredibly grateful for that.”

Known for his unbridled and risqué standup routines, Brand hosted shows on radio and television, wrote memoirs charting his battles with drugs and alcohol, appeared in several Hollywood movies and was briefly married to pop star Katy Perry between 2010 and 2012.

In recent years, Brand has largely disappeared from mainstream media but has built up a large following online with videos mixing wellness and conspiracy theories. He recently said he had moved to the United States.

Brand is due to appear in a London court on May 2.

Jaswant Narwal, of Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service, said prosecutors “carefully reviewed the evidence after a police investigation into allegations made following the broadcast of a Channel 4 documentary in September 2023.

“We have concluded that Russell Brand should be charged with offences including rape, sexual assault and indecent assault,” Narwal said.

“The Crown Prosecution Service reminds everyone that criminal proceedings are active, and the defendant has the right to a fair trial.”

In January the BBC apologized to staff members who felt unable to complain about Brand’s conduct because of his celebrity status. Brand had two weekly radio shows on the BBC from 2006 to 2008 and worked periodically on a number of short-term projects.

The BBC acknowledged that it was “clear that presenters have been able to abuse their positions” in the past.


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Yesterday, 4:55 pm

You know, if the police were serious about celebrities exploiting young women they should have arrested Elvis, Sinatra and every second male rockstar, producer, casting director and actor that ever worked.

I'm not actually a fan of Brand, but since he became a popular youtuber his influence is considerable with millions of followers around the world. Unfortunately for him his brand of politics and subject matter might have made him a target with intelligence agencies (not unlike tate or Assange). It wouldn't be hard to track and convince a former female acquaintance (and from what I understand Brand has had hundreds) who has an axe to grind due to his conduct. I am not suggesting these 4 women were not exploited but I don't think it makes sense to selectively target Brand and ignore literally thousands of other male entertainers/performers who virtually do/did the same thing.



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Yesterday, 4:59 pm

So, because they're not going after guys who are literally dead, they shouldn't go after Brand? :scratch:


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Yesterday, 5:09 pm

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So, because they're not going after guys who are literally dead, they shouldn't go after Brand? :scratch:


Many are living and exploiting as we speak. No I'm not suggesting Brand get a pass. He has to pay. But the timing and target is curious.



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Yesterday, 5:12 pm

One of the biggest factors is that police depend on the victims to report/make a complaint against the perpetrator.

If a hundred people all do the same thing, but only one of them has victims who actually come forward, only that perp is likely to face charges.


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Yesterday, 5:14 pm

It is an extremely underreported crime. Most people do get away with it. It’s good when guilty folks pay the price no matter what their political affiliation might be.


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Yesterday, 5:40 pm

If Russell is guilty, he deserves all the punishment that might be doled out to him.

As with every case of alleged rape, there are always accusers/people who exist to differing severities such as the woman in the following article, who make up stories about men and which have driven men to suicide in many cases.

Which is why such cases should have been settled in court before people make assumptions.

https://news.sky.com/story/eleanor-williams-why-did-woman-who-made-false-rape-and-grooming-claims-tell-such-extraordinary-lies-13098632



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Yesterday, 6:16 pm

Black men are often the victims of false allegations of all kinds, including false rape allegations:

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html

Some of them are wrongly convicted at trial.



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Yesterday, 6:26 pm

This likely isn’t about false allegations, though.

It’s pretty rare for people to make something like this up. The fact that 4 women came forward seems to legitimize this particular case further.

It’s also interesting that it has been investigated for 18 months.

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Jaswant Narwal, of Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service, said prosecutors “carefully reviewed the evidence after a police investigation into allegations made following the broadcast of a Channel 4 documentary in September 2023.

“We have concluded that Russell Brand should be charged with offences including rape, sexual assault and indecent assault,” Narwal said.
I think it’s good that it’s received publicity because it may encourage women to be more cautious around Brand. There’s also the hope that it will deter others from committing such crimes, but that may be a bit idealistic.


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Yesterday, 7:00 pm

two of the factors in the accusations is a) the veracity of the claims where the burden of proof is on the accuser and b) the dates, if there is a statute of limitations. Its been applied to abuse claims against rocker Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson). Charges could not be filed against Warner (Manson) for either domestic violence or sexual abuse, because the prosecutors "could not prove charges of sexual assault beyond a reasonable doubt", and that the "claims fell outside of the statute of limitations". 95% Of Bill Cosby's accusations also fell under statute of limitations (the one case that incriminated him only got him 2.5 years) . It also permitted current Supreme court judge and trump appointee Brett Kavanaugh to escape prosecution. Otherwise all of the above highly likely committed the acts they are accused off.



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Yesterday, 7:05 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
This likely isn’t about false allegations, though.


I mentioned that aspect as the participants in the thread seemed to be treating Brand as guilty already. I was merely pointing to other possibilities.

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It’s pretty rare for people to make something like this up.


I'm not sure about that. Cases where men or women make something like this up and take it to trial - knowingly lying are likely rare, but sometimes women or men accuse (typically) men of such crimes to damage their reputations, or for revenge for other occurrences that transpire within interpersonal relationships.

Then there are people who don't have or hold reliable memories. Some people even have false memories and believe they are telling the truth when they are not.

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The fact that 4 women came forward seems to legitimize this particular case further.


I agree, it does seem to strengthen the case for Brand's guilt.

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It’s also interesting that it has been investigated for 18 months.


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Jaswant Narwal, of Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service, said prosecutors “carefully reviewed the evidence after a police investigation into allegations made following the broadcast of a Channel 4 documentary in September 2023.


This also points towards Brand being guilty, as you imply.



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Yesterday, 7:14 pm

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Then there are people who don't have or hold reliable memories. Some people even have false memories and believe they are telling the truth when they are not.


False memory is a feasible defense if its one accusation, but little harder in Brand's case as there's 4 accusers. I suspect his lawyers will go for a) the veracity of the claims accusing the women of exaggeration for $$ or b) altogether false accusations contrived for $$

this seemed to work for Michael Jackson. Brand is wealthy enough he might also instruct his lawyers to look for opportunities to settle out of court. Russel Brand's "brand" is still pulling in money via his podcast so his business needs insulation from the bad press (not to mention I doubt he'd be allowed like Andrew tate be allowed to livestream himself from prison).



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Yesterday, 7:21 pm

It is probably worth pointing out also that celebrities often have a higher number count of people they have had sex with/slept with. The chances of being falsely accused as a celebrity, by someone else gets higher, the more people a person/that celebrity has slept with.

I mean, let us say Russell Brand, as a wild guess/example, might have slept with 100 people over the past 30 years and 96 of them are not accusing him of any crime, the 4 people might be less damning than if the average person had been accused of the same.

I'm not defending him - for all I know he is guilty, we'll see how the trial goes I guess.



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Yesterday, 7:32 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
This likely isn’t about false allegations, though.


I mentioned that aspect as the participants in the thread seemed to be treating Brand as guilty already.
It seems more like we were engaging with the article. Stating opinions on a small internet forum is unlikely to impact Brand in any capacity. I think he’s likely guilty based on what we know so far. I tend to believe victims until I have a reason not to. Women so often aren’t believed which is one of the reasons why this is an underreported crime. I should also state that even if he’s deemed not guilty for whatever reason, he still may be. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
blitzkrieg wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
It’s pretty rare for people to make something like this up.


I'm not sure about that. Cases where men or women make something like this up and take it to trial - knowingly lying are likely rare, but sometimes women or men accuse (typically) men of such crimes to damage their reputations, or for revenge for other occurrences that transpire within interpersonal relationships.
Since he’s been charged, I was mostly alluding to legal accusations. It is pretty unusual for women to falsely accuse a man according to the research. It would be even less likely for 4 to do so. As for accusing men in a nonlegal sense, I don’t think research has been done on that to demonstrate frequency although I will say that I doubt it’s common although specific times where it happens are talked about a lot, not that that’s relevant to this discussion.


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Yesterday, 7:44 pm

There is no realistic way of researching the frequency of non-legal, false accusations in this type of scenario. The majority of people who falsely accuse other people of crimes are typically dishonest in the first place and likely wouldn't be answering truthfully in any research into the matter, were they to be questioned to begin with.



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Yesterday, 7:53 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
I mean, let us say Russell Brand, as a wild guess/example, might have slept with 100 people over the past 30 years and 96 of them are not accusing him of any crime, the 4 people might be less damning than if the average person had been accused of the same.

try 4000
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/one-estimate- ... ccounter=1



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