Apparently Bush told the truth- Gitmo captives not tortured

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06 Oct 2007, 12:58 pm

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This guy says he was in Gitmo for 5 years, and in that whole time the only evidence of mistreatment of prisoners he saw was some guards pissing on a Koran... no reports of screams in the night of prisoners being tortured, never said he saw another prisoner being led back to his cell beaten and bloody, never said he was denied a pillow or a blanket or a hot meal or none of that... but they peed on his book, and thats an outrage...

i say if thats the worst thing that happened to him, then prisoners in gitmo are treated much better than inmates in US jails and prisons.



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06 Oct 2007, 1:16 pm

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This guy says he was in Gitmo for 5 years, and in that whole time the only evidence of mistreatment of prisoners he saw was some guards pissing on a Koran... no reports of screams in the night of prisoners being tortured, never said he saw another prisoner being led back to his cell beaten and bloody, never said he was denied a pillow or a blanket or a hot meal or none of that... but they peed on his book, and thats an outrage...

i say if thats the worst thing that happened to him, then prisoners in gitmo are treated much better than inmates in US jails and prisons.


Did he meet any aliens or ufos?


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06 Oct 2007, 1:20 pm

If he did, apparently they didn't piss on his koran or else we'd have heard about it...



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06 Oct 2007, 1:59 pm

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If he did, apparently they didn't piss on his koran or else we'd have heard about it...


Ok that will be the Americans then who sodomized them.


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06 Oct 2007, 2:08 pm

Um, ok... you think he got sodomised, but he decides not to mention that, because peeing on his book was a much more outrageous act and he didn't want to detract from that? Or is that just your recurring gitmo fantasy dream scenario that you play out in your mind when you lie in bed at night?



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06 Oct 2007, 2:10 pm

jrknothead wrote:
Um, ok... you think he got sodomised, but he decides not to mention that, because peeing on his book was a much more outrageous act and he didn't want to detract from that? Or is that just your recurring gitmo fantasy dream scenario that you play out in your mind when you lie in bed at night?


Perhaps the choice was admit you were sodomized or claim $100 000


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06 Oct 2007, 2:46 pm

i don't quite get your meaning... are you saying you would pay $100,000 to get sodomized? Dude, you can get that free from any US senator in the minneapolis airport men's room...



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06 Oct 2007, 2:47 pm

hey i'm english what is gitmo anyone?


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06 Oct 2007, 2:50 pm

The US terrorist detention camp in Guantanemo Bay, Cuba



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06 Oct 2007, 2:55 pm

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06 Oct 2007, 3:09 pm

jrknothead wrote:
i say if thats the worst thing that happened to him, then prisoners in gitmo are treated much better than inmates in US jails and prisons.


Type 'Guatanamo torture' into google. Even the staff admit whats been going on....



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06 Oct 2007, 6:11 pm

jrknothead wrote:
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This guy says he was in Gitmo for 5 years, and in that whole time the only evidence of mistreatment of prisoners he saw was some guards pissing on a Koran...


That's not what the article says. The article says only that he was not personally tortured. Also, that he had no connection to Al Qaeda, so didn't have any information to give.

All this shows is that one particular guy, mistakenly picked up by the Pakistanis, was not tortured. It says nothing about the hundreds of other prisoners.



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06 Oct 2007, 7:44 pm

Two different detention facilities:
Gitmo, in Cuba (abuse absent or not hideous)
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Abu Graib, in Iraq (abuse, including sodomy, documented with photos and admitted to under oath).

Additionally, there are claims that prisoners in Afghanistan have died in the process of 'interrogation.'


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06 Oct 2007, 8:10 pm

Secret CIA prison facilities scattered around the globe, as well.



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06 Oct 2007, 8:21 pm

Am i the only one who finds it disturbing that people adopt a cutesy nickname for an illegal torture camp. :(

I very much doubt that the friends & families of the prisoners call it 'gitmo', anymore than a 3rd-reich holocaust survivor would refer to 'austwie'.

Ordinary max-security prisons are not traditionally given cutesy mis-abbreviations afaik - and this highlights why i find it disturbing - it suggests that it is precisely the controversy surrounding this facility that has led to mostly 'right-wing' people propagating the cutsey name: its a 'sweetener' -the aim is to deflect criticism and play down the gravity of the situation and the very serious issues it raises.



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06 Oct 2007, 8:54 pm

'Gitmo' is the name the Marines gave to the base long before there was a prison there. It was considered to be a great honor to be stationed there because the cuban border guards used to fire random potshots into the place, giving it the reputation during peacetime as the most dangerous Marine Corps posting.

Prisoners in US maximum security prisons always refer to their prisons by nicknames. Alcatraz was called 'The Rock', Leavenworth is called 'The Hot House'. The media does not make these names up, the prisoners do.