Scientologists claim to be 'mind experts'....

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16 Jan 2008, 6:46 pm

http://www.bigpond.com/news/entertainme ... 140320.asp

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16 Jan 2008, 6:59 pm

Whenever I visited Hollywood the scientologist would descend on me like locust. So how did I stop that...well I realised that everytime I had a homeless teen with me they left me alone....no really. I was baffled by that. Other Churches would approach me if I had a homeless person with me, but not the Scinetologist......money a factor??????



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16 Jan 2008, 6:59 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfnYc63gXk[/youtube]


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16 Jan 2008, 8:49 pm

The only thing Scientologists are the "authorities" on is insanity.



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16 Jan 2008, 11:04 pm

Right. If they're claiming that, then I think that I shall claim to be a small, blue, fish-cum-banana with degrees in astrophysics, advanced neurochemistry and the shininess and odour of little green pointy things.

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16 Jan 2008, 11:06 pm

wow that guy needs to find his marbles



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17 Jan 2008, 12:24 am

Just saw part of that video on "The Hour" with George Strombolopolis (I refuse to spell-check any of this).

At first, Tom actually sounds just like an enthusiastic proponent of any given faith, be it evangelical, muslim, or what have you.

By the end though, the arrogance of his statements had made him the equivalent of that one guy at every university who spends each temperate day wandering around campus, yelling out over-simplified bible verses like he's just discovered the cure for cancer.

I wouldn't mind the Scientology movement so much, if their zealous insanity didn't undermine the wholesome, heartfelt message of Primus-fearin' Transfans like myself, along with all those who've listed "Jedi" as their religion on census forms. That message is, of course, that if we could all just loosen up enough to not take any religion too seriously or literally, the world could be a much better place.


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17 Jan 2008, 12:36 am

So . . . why is Scientology not considered a cult?



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17 Jan 2008, 1:18 am

Basshead wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfnYc63gXk[/youtube]


that guy is completely off his rocker... i already thought scientology was a little wierd, now it's clear that it must turn peoples' brains to mush...



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17 Jan 2008, 1:47 am

KSW? That's a new one on me. This article from the Chicago Tribune sheds some light.

Reformist zeal, and feeling a "calling" (if you will) to help other human beings? That's all very well. But to require that adherents turn over their rational minds to this doctrinal mishmash? And to clean out their wallets in the process?

Some might argue, I suppose, that mainstream religions have been doing the same thing for millennia :) but Scientologists are merely being more obvious about it. :D



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17 Jan 2008, 2:23 am

SleepyDragon wrote:
Reformist zeal, and feeling a "calling" (if you will) to help other human beings? That's all very well. But to require that adherents turn over their rational minds to this doctrinal mishmash? And to clean out their wallets in the process?

Some might argue, I suppose, that mainstream religions have been doing the same thing for millennia :) but Scientologists are merely being more obvious about it. :D


What's more, Scientologists and Catholics both do 'confessions'. But I doubt some Catholics will use these confessions as blackmail, however Tom Cruise allegedly had 'blackmail' material on Nicole Kidman from a Scientology confession. It's also prevalent in other cults, but used in a more covert manner, usually within the cult.

Personally, I should make a list of cults that have 'KWF' next to them. I'd suggest airing out cultists' heads, but that has parallels with Nazism and Stalinism.


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17 Jan 2008, 3:08 am

KSW=Keep Scientology Working



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17 Jan 2008, 4:00 am

EvilKimEvil wrote:
So . . . why is Scientology not considered a cult?


not sure. they took an action to the high court here in australia, to be considered a religion and it won. apparently worshiping a supernatural force is enough to make a religion(main criteria here).

i still see it as a cult. peoples like that have not dissuaded me from this view.



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17 Jan 2008, 8:18 am

Scientology is a cult, and an insane one at that. They have NO grounds to believe what they do, apart from something that Mother Hubbard found in her cupboard.


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17 Jan 2008, 1:39 pm

tweety_fan wrote:
EvilKimEvil wrote:
So . . . why is Scientology not considered a cult?


not sure. they took an action to the high court here in australia, to be considered a religion and it won. apparently worshiping a supernatural force is enough to make a religion(main criteria here).

i still see it as a cult. peoples like that have not dissuaded me from this view.


I think that if we're going to define certain religions as cults, then Scientology fits the definition and should not be excluded due to its size and celebrity endorsement. To do otherwise sends the message that any cult can gain widespread acceptance by increasing its membership and obtaining the support of celebrities.



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17 Jan 2008, 6:03 pm

All in your mind topic

When I find that any viewpoint, religion or other belief is an expert or authority on certain life matters, the red flags are raised.

No viewpoint, religion or belief has a monopoly on expertise. This is just dogma, the magic bullet, the enema for all our ills. How inaccurate, how sad, how erroneous.

I am not a well educated person but from what I know about what the word science means (knowledge or wisdom) I am disappointed that there is the suffix -ology (pertaining to the study) added to the word science and then having us believe it is a legitimate study like theology or psychology or political science, using some sort of rigorous examination criteria. This is not the case after reading about what scientology is, according to L. Ron Hubbard.

And why is it that they need so much money? The pursuit of knowledge and wisdom (not to be confused with higher education leading to a degree) does not require anything more than the public library or the internet. This is how I have learned and continue to learn about what goes on in the world. It is not foolproof but what I have learned is that knowledge and wisdom evolve and change over time, as do the sources of such information.

My pursuit of wisdom and knowledge involves analyzing and questioning in order to become a wiser human being. I am not convinced scientology entirely fills that bill. Acquiring wisdom involves an eclectic approach, and not to depend or rely on one source for everything. Variety is the spice of life. Singularity is the cult of life.


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