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15 Feb 2008, 3:11 am

I like to google for the latest in information on neanderthals. I'm one of those that suspect a link to the ASDs.

The first two are not exactly new.. its from 1999, but its interesting. It deals with interbreeding between sapien and neanderthalensis. A skeleton was found.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/323657.stm

http://cogweb.ucla.edu/ep/Neanderthal.html

This is more modern and speaks of genes.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0606966103v1

and here is some amazing info about brain size.

This next one suggests a commonality, but a link at the bottom of it suggests differently! Someone should tell them to date their articles..

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Human-Br ... 9515.shtml



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15 Feb 2008, 12:44 pm

Thank you. Very interesting material.


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16 Feb 2008, 11:37 pm

so then NT stands for NeanderThal?...;)



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17 Feb 2008, 12:35 am

No, NT stands for neurotypical. Most people are neurotypical. Some of us believe that autism comes from the neanderthals.



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19 Feb 2008, 2:02 pm

Meandering with the Neanderthals topic


Are there any scientific articles of good reputation that support your theory that Autism is connected with Neanderthal humanoid life? It would be interesting. I have a minor persevernance with this species only because I am small boned and I wish I had their muscle and bone mass, especially in the shoulders. 8)


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19 Feb 2008, 3:12 pm

No smoking gun sartreuse. There are speculations as to links to modern things such as ADD and various other traits.. No real hard evidence; I've been fascinated with them since youth.

If you want an interesting but hardly orthodox view, Rdos has a page on the matter. http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm



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23 Feb 2008, 3:39 pm

I should give up comedy...;)
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23 Feb 2008, 4:43 pm

Still meandering with the Neanderthals topic

Some of the info in the new link was a bit technical. I wonder about the reconstructed face of the child. S/he does not look as brutish as the typical pictures of the dark, menacing, hulking thugs wielding clubs. This child looks mildly interested in something, though I have never been good at reading facial expressions. Nice red hair and even gray/blue eyes! Different.

I read in one article in the Toronto Star by Jay Ingram about nine years ago that there may be Neanderthal genes in us, or at least we shared something in common as some human remains discovered over the years, in Portugal I believe, seem to indicate a hybrid Homo Sapiens-Homo Neanderthal type. Ingram concludes in his article that Neanderthals live on, in us. If your idea of Autism originating in Neanderthals has any plausibility, then it would follow that Autistic traits have long been with us. Great article. Keep us posted of any new developments.


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23 Feb 2008, 7:32 pm

sartresue wrote:
Still meandering with the Neanderthals topic

Some of the info in the new link was a bit technical. I wonder about the reconstructed face of the child. S/he does not look as brutish as the typical pictures of the dark, menacing, hulking thugs wielding clubs. This child looks mildly interested in something, though I have never been good at reading facial expressions. Nice red hair and even gray/blue eyes! Different.


There is a lot of speculation that the bony featured neanderthals were stricken with arthritis/old age.