UK Embryo Bill - those with disabilities not fit to live

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One of the bits of the new Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill that's going through parliament at the moment says that if someone has IVF, the doctors can check the embryos for genetic signs of disability. If they find some, then the embryo can be thrown away.

If they find genetic markers for autism , then those don't get to live. I guess that means they're ok with trying to screen all of us out of existence.
This from the Times newspaper on 16 Mar:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p ... 559306.ece

"Designer babies
It will become legal for doctors to screen out embryos which have disabilities and implant only those free of disease. The law prohibits selecting a disabled embryo if healthy ones are available. "

Survival of the NTs, artificial selection at its worse.

Not only is this morally bankrupt, but prevents human evolution if such a thing were to be.

I don't really have a problem with this in principle, the problem is that Autism Spectrum "disorders" and other neurodiverse conditions are ignorantly placed in the same overly-broad "genetic disability" category as genetic conditions that are actually serious, like Down's Syndrome.

Thank god for those who are still in making babies homemade.

Wont be long before these motherf***ers decide they need to take out those already born... well i'm not going down without a fight. If i start training now, by time they find me i can annihilate them.

except at present, I don't think there is a genetic marker for autism...people in the East are doing this already, except it's for 'defects' like carrying a girl...kid you not...

Omg... that's horrible. I can understand - don't confuse that with agree, necessarily - people wanting to screen for severe disabilities. But where do you draw the line? I can see how this could soon warp into 'autism is a severe disability', and 'all autism is the same' etc. Scary stuff.

In ways I think it's wrong, to make choices based on how you perceive a child's life will be. Where do you decide the degree of disability.Of course some people could never do well parenting a disabled child and provision needs to be made so that children born to those parents can be found loving homes. Some People with down syndrome can live pretty happy lives I met a few when I was in special ed, but then there was also my friends aunt and uncle they were carriers of a genetic disease where the child would die within a few days of being born ( I don't remember what it was called this was when I was in middle school) they wanted kids they had three babies in a row that had this disease all three lived less then a week and then had a normal child, maybe if they had been able to screen for it they wouldn't have had those three but then they were catholic so maybe it would have come out the same, but still it caused her whole family a lot of distress.

why is there okays for including downs under 'not fit to live' yet it's not okay for Autistics?
Just like Autism,the severity of DS differs a lot from profound to mild,many have no physical problems either,as someone who was in school,college and residential homes with DSers,am would say dont label them all the same,it's just like those who label all Autistics the same.

Will we ever stop working toward eugenics?
When will these veritable blindfolded monkeys realize they are not competent to understand the complex truths of human life with which the Creator endowed us all?
One might as well ask a moose to artfully arrange a china shop.
The fact is that "valuable members of society" and its synonyms will never have a litmus test. The sooner we realize that everyone is born with the right to life, the better.

i was thinking that this whole thing comes from peoples desire to have a healthy baby.
it sucks when people just want to have a baby that will be attractive(there has been talk of giving parents the ability of choosing what their kids will look like)
DS people have just as much right to live as auties do. anyway why prohibit using the disabled embryos? the practice with embryonic testing now is to advise people of the result and ask them if they want to go ahead with the pregnancy. a lot go ahead from what i have heard.(relates to the test for DS that pregnant women over forty undergo.)

anyway the tests are not always accurate anyhow. making abortion of disabled embryos mandatory is just not fair.

British people are weird. Not to mention, English people make some screwed up muffins. They are tasty though.