Man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to 9 murders

Page 1 of 1 [ 10 posts ] 

jrknothead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Aug 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,423

28 Aug 2008, 2:02 am

Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.



zebedee
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 30 Nov 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 280

28 Aug 2008, 3:09 am

Similair people call for a ban on sharp kitchen knives to stop stabbings. What they dont account for is that it would just result in a rise in people being bludgeoned, if someone is determined to hurt another they will find a means.



n4mwd
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jun 2008
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 871
Location: Palm Beach, FL

28 Aug 2008, 3:46 am

Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.



slowmutant
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,430
Location: Ontario, Canada

28 Aug 2008, 5:34 am

jrknothead wrote:
Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.


With all these determined criminals running around, the law needs to be even more determined! You think we should give up having gun laws because a few no-gooders manage to get their grubby paws on firearms? Having No Gun Laws Whatsoever is not the solution, here. I detest that attitude.



slowmutant
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,430
Location: Ontario, Canada

28 Aug 2008, 5:36 am

n4mwd wrote:
Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.


Dox47, you are aware that sock-puppeting is against WrongPlanet rules, no?



Joeygeorge
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 9 Dec 2007
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 59

28 Aug 2008, 8:36 am

jrknothead wrote:
Guilty: the man who ran a garden-shed gun factory linked to nine murder scenes

The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. This story shows that even the strictest laws will not prevent a determined criminal from getting guns. If they can't buy them locally, they will smuggle them in, or make them, often with tragic results.

Of course, the naysayers will counter that the availability of replica guns is at fault here, and will call for replicas to be banned as well.


strictest gun laws when a 5 year18mnt old brother with a gun in the head i dont think so old girl shoots he



iamnotaparakeet
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 25,091
Location: 0.5 Galactic radius

28 Aug 2008, 8:45 am

Joeygeorge wrote:
5 year18mnt old


78 month old,
1 year 66 month old,
2 year 54 month old,
3 year 42 month old,
4 year 30 month old,
5 year 18 month old,
6 year 6 month old,
7 year minus 6 month old,
8 year minus 18 month old,
9 year minus 30 month old,
10 year minus 42 month old,
11 year minus 54 month old,
12 year minus 66 month old,
13 year minus 78 month old...



Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

29 Aug 2008, 4:35 pm

slowmutant wrote:
n4mwd wrote:
Whenever guns are banned, only the criminals get to have guns. That leaves the honest population at a distinct disadvantage. Look at the high murder rate in Washington, DC. The had strict gun control laws there too. It was recently overturned and the people there are allowed to defend themselves again.


Dox47, you are aware that sock-puppeting is against WrongPlanet rules, no?


You did notice that he has a higher post count than me, right? Besides, I thought you were my sock puppet, you make all those poor arguments that are so easily knocked down, it saves me the effort.


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


slowmutant
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,430
Location: Ontario, Canada

29 Aug 2008, 5:30 pm

You're greasy enough to wiggle out of my arguments, Dox. You don't knock them down as much as you sleaze right through them with that silver tongue of yours.



Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

30 Aug 2008, 11:59 pm

slowmutant wrote:
You're greasy enough to wiggle out of my arguments, Dox. You don't knock them down as much as you sleaze right through them with that silver tongue of yours.


I can't decide if this is a complement or not, but being the good Christian that you are, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll also save time by summarizing your arguments, as they are quite familiar to me by now.

You'll try to establish a causal link between guns and violence, probably using the phrase "guns kill people", or some variation there of.

You'll argue that more restrictive laws will be effective in preventing access to guns by criminals.

You'll simply ignore every counter-argument made to your posts, and repeat yourself ad-naseum, and perhaps quote some scripture.

Did I miss anything?


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez