Companies import poisonous Chinese toothpaste in disguise

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26 Sep 2008, 3:34 pm

"Laboratory tests conducted by the Food and Drug Administration and the Colgate-Palmolive company revealed the toothpaste not only lacked fluoride but..."

Flouride doesn't help your teeth.. or not enough to make a noticeable difference.. I've gone without flouride for a long time and my teeth are fabtacular.. I wonder if this is to get people to want flouride, as like a psychological kicker.

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27 Sep 2008, 9:16 am

ShawnWilliam wrote:

Flouride doesn't help your teeth.. or not enough to make a noticeable difference.. I've gone without flouride for a long time and my teeth are fabtacular..


You are not only fabtacular, but you are also fallacious!! The issue is not whether some individuals have few or no cavities even without flouride - it is whether fluoride significantly reduces the number of cavities in a population. Plenty of evidence it does. If you drank fluoridated water as a child, that fluoride is still protecting your tooth enamel.

The A.M.A. never took much of a stand on fluoridation - largely because they saw it through the lens of 'turfism' and the teeth have been arbitrarily ceded to the dentists. The officers of a group like the AMA were right to say they had no idea. But in the 40+ years since that letter was written, there has been plenty of medical research done. Even I won't say that fluoride is completely harmless and more is better for everyone. I would go as far as saying that modest fluoridation has good effects on teeth and bones, and with very small but real risks.

Oh, wait, my statements depend on 'experts' like dentists, public health scientists, and statisticians. I guess if we turn to the ultimate power in thinking ('common sense' and conspiracy paranoia), then I'm wrong and fluoride is a toxic mind control chemical that doesn't reduce cavities. Sorry, nevermind. :wink:



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27 Sep 2008, 12:49 pm

monty wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:

Flouride doesn't help your teeth.. or not enough to make a noticeable difference.. I've gone without flouride for a long time and my teeth are fabtacular..


You are not only fabtacular, but you are also fallacious!! The issue is not whether some individuals have few or no cavities even without flouride - it is whether fluoride significantly reduces the number of cavities in a population. Plenty of evidence it does. If you drank fluoridated water as a child, that fluoride is still protecting your tooth enamel.

The A.M.A. never took much of a stand on fluoridation - largely because they saw it through the lens of 'turfism' and the teeth have been arbitrarily ceded to the dentists. The officers of a group like the AMA were right to say they had no idea. But in the 40+ years since that letter was written, there has been plenty of medical research done. Even I won't say that fluoride is completely harmless and more is better for everyone. I would go as far as saying that modest fluoridation has good effects on teeth and bones, and with very small but real risks.

Oh, wait, my statements depend on 'experts' like dentists, public health scientists, and statisticians. I guess if we turn to the ultimate power in thinking ('common sense' and conspiracy paranoia), then I'm wrong and fluoride is a toxic mind control chemical that doesn't reduce cavities. Sorry, nevermind. :wink:



Hmm, it may reduce cavities to a degree, but I don't think it's anything to shake a stick at, and I don't think it should be in the drinking water supply... when you drink water, flouride isn't sitting on your teeth, it does down your pipe hole.

When you go to a dentist and they use flouride on your teeth, it has to sit on your teeth for like a minute, and it's much more pure... why would drinking tap water be a good place for flouride?.. hmm, strange.. :roll: Do those studies you're talking about explain why the water supply is a great place for flouride?.. it seems clear that flouride when it was put in to the water, was a health risk knowingly.. the studies only prove that they want to prove something that may or may not be true.. scientists are bought, and sold.. (literally that's how studies are assembled..)



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27 Sep 2008, 12:58 pm

Chinese junk topic

Why are some manufacturers in China continuing to add noxious additives to processed products intended for Human/pet use? And why are not these products rigorously tested before being sold/exported?

Answer: Human apathy/greed of importers/exporters. There is always a price to pay. If the manufacturing industry in China does not change its horrendous processing practices immediately, there is going to unavoidable economic repercussions for this so called World Class Economy.

Refuse to buy/import any goods intended for human consumption or other human/pet use (including soap/toothpaste) until Big Beijing Business cleans up its act. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


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27 Sep 2008, 1:06 pm

sartresue wrote:

Refuse to buy/import any goods intended for human consumption or other human/pet use (including soap/toothpaste) until Big Beijing Business cleans up its act. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Good idea, but difficult to do. Products don't have to tell you where all the ingredients come from, and usually don't. The pet-food scandal here a few months is an example - manufacturers ordered gluten from China, mixed it in the product, and just listed 'gluten' on the package. If you seek out organic or high-end products, the chances of contamination are probably less, but not zero.



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27 Sep 2008, 1:26 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
Hmm, it may reduce cavities to a degree, but I don't think it's anything to shake a stick at, and I don't think it should be in the drinking water supply... when you drink water, flouride isn't sitting on your teeth, it does down your pipe hole.


I think that the question of whether to put fluoride in the water or not is a legitimate issue. But the decision should be based on information about the benefits and risks of that practice. That requires science.