'Gaza vs Israel' An interesting article I found.

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Israel's failure to learn

I have been following this story constantly over the last week on various new channels, the aljazeera coverage has been the best and has a different emphasis to most of the western news orgs. The article does a good job of summarising the problem and why a workable solution will never be found acceptable by either side.

If you can't get Aljazeera on cable or satellite they have a webcast, be prepared that some of the footage they use may be more visceral than you are used to on US news channels. They have systematically poached some of the finest names of the UK newsrooms over recent years so if you have grown up in the UK it is like an all star newscast!

That article is pure propaganda. People who think propaganda from either side is reality need to go live there. They need to meet both sides to learn the truth. Anything else is mindless parroting of the twisted thoughts behind the fighting.

I realise that it is all propaganda in one form or another, I just like to gather many different points of view.

True. But I've been suspicious of a network that always airs Al Quaeda's dispatches to the world.
Still, an objective and balanced report on that area of the world is absolutely impossible.

The problem is that the occupation and internment of the Palestinian people by Israeli settlers can be likened to holding a wolf back by its ears. Apparently, the Israeli's solution to this problem: hold on tighter.

why does everyone always blame the israeli's? what are they supposed to do????

Yea, it's hard to find a balance. Both sides want the dirt because both have an emotional connection with it because of what they've been taught.

Hi, this is going to be my first post here. \o

Long story short, they're like two children fighting over a cookie jar, and have broken it two dozen times, the cookies are broken and full of glass bits but they're still tumbling around the floor like morons.

Making cake from cookie crumbs topic

Crumby. Banks and strips of land will not appease terrorists. Until Palestinians and Hamasites can recognize the legitimacy of Israel then the rockets will continue and Israel will have no choice but to defend itself.

This has been said time and time again. The Hamas rockets are a terror tactic. There is no peace with weapons of mass destruction.

Early last year I wrote about some ways that Palestinians and Israelis can work toward peace employing economic means for a joint prosperity. Now that the global financial mess is just that--world wide, this idea might just make more sense now. Start a war on poverty and unemployment. Sounds simple. Just take those rockets and turn them into something useful for sustaining human life, not snuffing it out.

This is not naivite. But first there must be trust--and a CEASEFIRE.

At present, only the dead live in the middle east in peace.

There was a ceasefire and they both let it expire by two days, knowing full well what was going to happen (and they do a good job of fanning surprise). A negotiator, and former British intelligence man was saying how these ceasefires aren’t worth the paper they are written on. A deal is struck it is only good for a couple days at most and then it deteriorates from then on, because there is no progress plan at all. They are merely to appease each other’s electorate and make themselves look good.

Israel is complacent, no doubt about it. It has tried the strategy of trying to weaken its enemies by forcing them to compromise themselves for decades. It doesn't work, there are new groups forming all the time. Likewise if you are going to use a cornering strategy, finish the job (obviously I’m not being serious). If you control all the recourses coming in and out of an area, bar some secret tunnels, expect the situation inside to boil over.


They used to have a problem with PLA/Arafat but now they have Hamas to contend with and they take some of the responsibility for that turn of events. Israel can show the world that it is not the bad guy when it removes settlers from land they are not supposed to be on in the first place.

Well I suppose a solution is for the US to go play babysitter to the 2 brats who keep fighting next door. Go sit outside everyone's houses and spank them when they try to pull out a missile. Or we can just let them kill each other. Problem is, too many actual kids over there are getting hurt because their parents choose land over life.

I think both sides are to blame but Israel's ramming the relief boat was a pretty despicable act. It's also pretty sick how Bush is just sitting on his hands, not even talking about it and counting down the days til he can just go drink and play golf again.

Why is there this tendency to assume the Iraelis and Palestinians are on equal ground?



Does anyone see any meaning in this image?

By the way, a few billion of your tax dollars go directly to the weapons that are being launched against Gaza right now.

http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence ... n-aid.html

You should write your local representative and tell him/her what you think about this expenditure.

That's a very striking graphic Ah_Q. Is it accessible online?

The Jewish territory grew after each war against Israel. In war, the losers lose. 56, 67, 73 and the intifada. The Palestinians simply don't get it.

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Are you suggesting that it is alright for the victor to break international laws and treaties that recognize a people's rights to home, family, land and work, all of which are robbed in a land grab?