U.S. judges admit to jailing children for money

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13 Feb 2009, 7:18 pm

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PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Two judges pleaded guilty on Thursday to accepting more than $2.6 million from a private youth detention centre in Pennsylvania in return for giving hundreds of youths and teenagers long sentences.


http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnou ... EP20090213

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13 Feb 2009, 7:23 pm

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The Constitution guarantees the right to legal representation in U.S. courts. But many of the juveniles appeared before Ciavarella without an attorney because they were told by the probation service that their minor offences didn't require one.


Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.



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13 Feb 2009, 10:31 pm

How Dickensian! Land of the Free indeed...

Its jolly nice to see that those who left the UK to escape oppression have advanced to a state about level with Victorian England.
Heres to the future! Be letting the womenfolk vote before you know it...


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13 Feb 2009, 10:35 pm

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How Dickensian! Land of the Free indeed...

Its jolly nice to see that those who left the UK to escape oppression have advanced to a state about level with Victorian England.

Whoa there tiger. Y'all ain't exactly in the land of the free either.


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13 Feb 2009, 10:49 pm

That is just cruel. These people lost parts of their lives that cannot be returned.



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13 Feb 2009, 11:00 pm

twoshots wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
How Dickensian! Land of the Free indeed...

Its jolly nice to see that those who left the UK to escape oppression have advanced to a state about level with Victorian England.

Whoa there tiger. Y'all ain't exactly in the land of the free either.


I beg to differ. We cant get our judges to lock up the f*****s who are supposed to be in prison, much less anyone else.


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13 Feb 2009, 11:02 pm

^:lmao: Well ya got me there. Here in the United States we generally favor a "lock up everybody policy". As long as you're not in prison you're doing alright though.


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14 Feb 2009, 9:32 am

ForsakenEagle wrote:
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The Constitution guarantees the right to legal representation in U.S. courts. But many of the juveniles appeared before Ciavarella without an attorney because they were told by the probation service that their minor offences didn't require one.


Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.


What? Corrupt judges! I am shocked, shocked!

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14 Feb 2009, 10:12 am

ruveyn wrote:
ForsakenEagle wrote:
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The Constitution guarantees the right to legal representation in U.S. courts. But many of the juveniles appeared before Ciavarella without an attorney because they were told by the probation service that their minor offences didn't require one.


Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.


What? Corrupt judges! I am shocked, shocked!

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Yeah, I guess you got me there. :)



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14 Feb 2009, 6:12 pm

It said they might get a seven year sentence.

I think that on top of that, they ought to have to serve the same sentences that they corruptly gave the minors, say for every three months they gave to a teen shoplifter or grafitti artist or whatever when they should have been given a warning, they should also have to serve three months, and they should all be served consecutively, so if they sentenced a 100 minors to three months, then they should have to serve 300 months. Let the punishment fit the crime that way, take away from them and their lives and liberty what they stole from those minors.



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14 Feb 2009, 6:52 pm

twoshots wrote:
^:lmao: Well ya got me there. Here in the United States we generally favor a "lock up everybody policy". As long as you're not in prison you're doing alright though.

In the US we generally lock up black people and people for the dumbest crap


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14 Feb 2009, 9:35 pm

that is digusting. people have lost big chunks of their lives.
just plain evil. :evil:



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14 Feb 2009, 11:16 pm

Why not fine these judges for blatant corruption as well as depriving of our children's lives instead? They owe their children their own state's children! Oh man, please! Oh my!



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15 Feb 2009, 2:41 pm

Let me make sure I understand this right; the two judges accepted payoffs to hand out unfair sentences to kids that came before them in court so that the kids would be incarcerated in privately owned detention centers and the detention centers get more money from the government?
The more they have imprisoned the more money (profit) they get.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
In a way this is also slavery since the detention center is holding generally innocent kids against their will to gain personal profit.
I'd give the judges more than 7 years and they'd have to serve every goddamned minute of it without hope of parole.
A public hanging comes to mind, too.
Either way an example has to be made.
I can't help but wonder where else this is going on unchecked but I'm sure it is.

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22 Feb 2009, 10:31 pm

The world is getting crazier and crazier.



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23 Feb 2009, 6:30 am

Agreed --- who can keep himself sane?