Legalize Marijuana? Stimulate the economy?

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Should marijuana be legalized as a means to stimulate the economy?
Yay 86%  86%  [ 36 ]
Nay 14%  14%  [ 6 ]
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24 Feb 2009, 6:07 pm

Finally! "My" idea is gaining traction!

Headline in today's Philadelphia Inquirer: "Pot proposals: Calif. sees tax windfall, N.J. eyes medical uses"

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/break ... l_use.html

Basic economics: create a product or service people want, then tax it.

I can list a bunch of reasons why this is an idea whose time has come but let's hear it from YOU! (Or if you're opposed...why?)

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24 Feb 2009, 6:21 pm

Please can we stop with these pro pot threads


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24 Feb 2009, 6:28 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
Please can we stop with these pro pot threads


So, we know where you stand.

I love it when someone has an opposing view - they call for "censorship". Classic.

I'm opposed to gun-ownership but I respect others' right to discuss and favor.

It's a valid question. If you don't like it don't open the topic.



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24 Feb 2009, 6:31 pm

No, its just there's been about 3 of these exact same threads now, and one went on for about 60 pages without reaching any conclusion.


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24 Feb 2009, 6:36 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
Please can we stop with these pro pot threads


By the way, the use of the word "dildo" could gross me out but I just tune it out and don't let it offend me. Try it.

To paraphrase Dr. Wayne Dyer:

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For example, they may in fact behave in ways that you find offensive. However, your relationship to them when they behave offensively is not determined by their behavior, it is determined only by how you choose to relate to that behavior."



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24 Feb 2009, 6:37 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
No, its just there's been about 3 of these exact same threads now, and one went on for about 60 pages without reaching any conclusion.


Didja hit the link? Its in today's headlines.

Awww screw it...

Getting flamed by a fellow aspie SUCKS.



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24 Feb 2009, 6:47 pm

MmeLePen wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
No, its just there's been about 3 of these exact same threads now, and one went on for about 60 pages without reaching any conclusion.


Didja hit the link? Its in today's headlines.

Awww screw it...

Getting flamed by a fellow aspie SUCKS.


I'm not trying to be nasty. I think it should just be illegal full stop, saves any complications. I know it does help some people, if someone who is seriously ill and needs it, they should be able to do it in their own home. Maybe people should try some herbal remodies before they go and fry their brain.


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24 Feb 2009, 6:52 pm

Legalizing drugs in general while I don't know how good it would be to stimulate the economy, at the least it would probably wreck the drugs trades which fund gangs and whatnot. The only issue that immediately springs to mind is lost productivity :hic:


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24 Feb 2009, 7:03 pm

I think it would be worthwhile if it led to greater industrial use of hemp. The illegality of marijuana is barrier to increased use of and reliance on hemp, which is evidently a highly versatile and completely renewable resource.



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24 Feb 2009, 7:04 pm

MmeLePen wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
Please can we stop with these pro pot threads


By the way, the use of the word "dildo" could gross me out but I just tune it out and don't let it offend me. Try it.

To paraphrase Dr. Wayne Dyer:

"Your experience of being offended is only in your mind. Your feelings come from your thoughts.

For example, they may in fact behave in ways that you find offensive. However, your relationship to them when they behave offensively is not determined by their behavior, it is determined only by how you choose to relate to that behavior."

I do agree with it, although in some cases is not that easy, especially related to past experiences and in cases when PTSD is developed, people wouldn't be able to help it, even when realising this I presume.


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24 Feb 2009, 7:52 pm

MmeLePen wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
No, its just there's been about 3 of these exact same threads now, and one went on for about 60 pages without reaching any conclusion.


Didja hit the link? Its in today's headlines.

Awww screw it...

Getting flamed by a fellow aspie SUCKS.

No one's flaming anyone. There's just some sensitivity on the subject of marijuana because, as mentioned, it was the topic of a 60 page arguement that only ended because it got locked lol.

I realize, though, that your subject is a bit different.. you're asking if it should be done to stimulate the economy. My first reaction is "No." I don't beleive we should comprimise our morals for the sake of money. But then the question comes up as to whether marijuana even should be illegal in the first place... and we end up back in the same 60 page argument. :lol:



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24 Feb 2009, 8:02 pm

I read a report in a local paper.

I think it's always appealing to govts to find ways of taxing people.

As long as MJ is in a 'grey' area legally they can't tax people on it. There is a pretty strong anti MJ sector (like alcohol is better?) so who knows. I wonder if they tax it in Holland, I guess that's the only place where there'd be a test case or precedent.



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24 Feb 2009, 8:06 pm

Here’s my opinion:

Legalize the use of everything but at the same time increase the penalty to sell or barter any non prescription drugs. If you want to use marijuana or even LSD you should either grow it or make it yourself and if you buy it put the seller against a firing squad, no appeals.



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24 Feb 2009, 8:21 pm

Marijuana is already stimulating the economy.
But , It's economic value is entirely based on the risk of getting caught.
If pot heads could freely grow that kind of grass at home, why would they buy it?
Even if they did, It would be as cheap as cat-nip.


They could tax it back up to its current street value, I suppose. That's an idea.
But people actually smuggle cigarettes to avoid paying the taxes on them.



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24 Feb 2009, 8:29 pm

There is no reason that marijuana should be illegal other than it funds the drugwar scam. Pot is less harmful than alcohol, nicotine, caffeine and most over the counter meds. I wish they would legalize but unfortunately they probably never will.


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24 Feb 2009, 10:34 pm

ok im making a report for college on why pot should be legal. heres what i have so far. anybody have any ideas please feel free to comment.

It should be legal! and not just to stimulate the economy. all the reasons for it being illegal don't make any sense. Its not addictive, and for those of you who say it is addictive psycholigically, people can be psycholligically addicted to spring water. and theres no withdrawl effects. when people try quitting coffe, they get withdrawl symptoms. so coffe is more addictive than marijuana.
And also its illegal because "Theres no accepted medical use" . I think that ones pretty obvious to see that its wrong. It has been proven in over 17,000 experiments the many medical uses: anti nauseant for chemotherapy, nausea and appetite loss associated with AIDS, anti convulsant for spinal injuries, multipal sclerosis, epilepsy, anelgesic for chronic pain, rheumatism, glaucoma and other applications Another reason, it is unsafe. Every year in the United States there are 85,000 deaths from alcohol, 17,000 deaths from illict drug use, and guess how many deaths from marijuana? 0. yeah, zero! and there are no permanent effects from marijuana. studies have shown that there is no permanent damage. the studies show that when marijuana use is stopped, the short term memory effects and other temporary effects disappear, even in heavy smokers. And some use the gateway theory, which has been proven to be wrong. Tobacco is actually proven to be a "gateway drug", not marijuana. And if pot was legalized, thousands of deaths can be prevented. people use alcohol because this is the only legal drug. if pot was legalized, the number of deaths from alcohol related car accidents and from binge drinking would be dramatically reduced. and all the money the US is wasting on enforcing laws against pot. and all the jail space and money spent on these "criminals". every year 800,000 people are arrested for pot. and isnt this the same as the alcohol prohibition?