Another Suicide brought on by bullying....

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22 Apr 2009, 3:23 pm

Georgia Family Blames 11-Year-Old Boy's Suicide on Severe Bullying

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The family of an 11-year-old Georgia boy found hanged to death in his bedroom closet said that school bullies drove the child to suicide, MyFOXAtlanta.com reported.

Relatives of Jaheem Herrera, a fifth-grader at Dunaire Elementary School in DeKalb, reportedly complained to school officials that he was being repeatedly teased and threatened by classmates......



This sort of thing is getting all too familiar... :( :evil:


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22 Apr 2009, 4:13 pm

I think it is about time that the media started to report on it and show some concern. The reality is that suicide due to bullying is very high but has been mostly ignored. In fact, I think that was one of the causes of the school shootings in the 90s. Ignoring bullying and those being bullied realizing that no one would care if they committed suicide.



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22 Apr 2009, 4:24 pm

That's so sad...he was only 11, and all... :(

Bullies suck. I don't understand why they do it, I mean, what's so good about deliberately making other people want to kill themselves?! Bullies must be very sad people.


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22 Apr 2009, 8:42 pm

The thing I don't understand about bullying is . . . what do they gain from it?
That always crossed my mind when it happened to me.
And for going as far as driving someone to suicide. I wonder if they're proud of that or something. If they are, they need a good kick in the balls.


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23 Apr 2009, 4:11 pm

Tori-kun wrote:
The thing I don't understand about bullying is . . . what do they gain from it?
That always crossed my mind when it happened to me.
And for going as far as driving someone to suicide. I wonder if they're proud of that or something. If they are, they need a good kick in the balls.


It's all part of that being "alpha" BS - because as everyone knows, being "alpha" is what you have to do to be popular in school and/or the real world. Doesn't matter how you go about getting that status, either. What they get out of it is a higher spot in the pecking order (by any means necessary.)

So in regard to the question about being proud of driving someone to suicide, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if some of these people were proud of it. One less person that might eventually fight back. Potential rivals in the pack are eliminated.

I read things like this, and it makes me realize humans really AREN'T that much better than animals, after all. We just have the brainpower to be more ruthless in the exercise of our "pack mentality."


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23 Apr 2009, 5:34 pm

I understand where the bullying comes from, what I don't understand is how a lot of the teachers (wrestling and football coaches are the absolute worst) are so willing to let it happen, and still sleep at night. Hey, who cares if he's playing a game called "Bowling for fags", which consists of cornering the weaker kids and throwing basketballs at their faces and crotches, he won us the city championship! Sh*t, let's go ahead and have a school assembly in his honor! Arschlochs....



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23 Apr 2009, 5:42 pm

i don't understand it was suicide by hanging not bullying



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23 Apr 2009, 9:16 pm

iMark wrote:
i don't understand it was suicide by hanging not bullying


I think it means that the victim suffered bullying to the point where it led to the suicide.


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24 Apr 2009, 2:11 am

The second 11 year old boy to be bullied like this, in the same way, and to commit suicide this week. Poor baby. *sends good thoughts to his family, and to him, wherever he is now.*



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24 Apr 2009, 12:03 pm

ADoyle wrote:
iMark wrote:
i don't understand it was suicide by hanging not bullying

I think it means that the victim suffered bullying to the point where it led to the suicide.

what if the victim suffered getting fired, would the person who fired him be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting dumped by his girlfriend, would the ex-girlfriend be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting a bad grade on a test, would the teacher who gave the grade be responsible?

the victim chose suicide when there were other alternatives. no one is responsible except the victim. suicide is the only time when blaming the victim is right.



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24 Apr 2009, 12:09 pm

iMark wrote:
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iMark wrote:
i don't understand it was suicide by hanging not bullying

I think it means that the victim suffered bullying to the point where it led to the suicide.

what if the victim suffered getting fired, would the person who fired him be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting dumped by his girlfriend, would the ex-girlfriend be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting a bad grade on a test, would the teacher who gave the grade be responsible?

the victim chose suicide when there were other alternatives. no one is responsible except the victim. suicide is the only time when blaming the victim is right.


All three things you mentioned are not the same as bullying.


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24 Apr 2009, 12:48 pm

of course they're not the same as bullying. only the results are the same. suicide.

the victim's family blames the bullies. would they also blame the employer, the ex-girlfriend, or the teacher in the other examples? maybe. but the point is that they do not blame the victim who is also the perpetrator of his own murder or themselves for not protecting their child.

the person responsible for the child's death is the child himself. bullying was just an excuse.



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24 Apr 2009, 1:13 pm

I'm really getting ticked at our system, ( USA one atleast ) nothing is getting done to help repell this suicide streak, more nd more kids are getting bullied everyday, Autistic or not, they are getting bullied. I was lucky enough to have a 17 year old help me out when i was just beginning in kindergarden, it was the whole buddy thing, and he noticed i was being bullied on my third day or so, and he came over and scared the $#!t out of the bullies and he gave me tips and things to do whenever he wasn't around, and i since kindergarden have never been bullied once (I'm in 11 grade now ). Something must have rubbed off of him into me because i gain alot of confidense in myself in one day, and it just sickens me to hear that suicide rate are increasing, i mean the kids are defenceless, even in war there are rules, USMC " Never fire upon another enemy or not, if he is un-armed". Some of them get armed and make big mistakes at the schools too, i honestly beleive unless something dramatic happens and our generation changes, this will continue to increase, and eventually someone is going to do something! I'd walk around campuss my self knocking out the bullie's, however then i am no different from them, just a person hurting others; its a real predicament?

ReEDIT: To an extent it's the victims fault, but if the victim is a kid he dosent have a mature thought process to get the help he needs, it is the bullies fault for the childs action, there for it is the bully who should be punished. I had a freind in 4 grade whom was bullied constantly, i would ward off as many of them as i could, but they would go complaining to the faculty members saying i was bullying them, ( load of crap ) so i could only go so far to help him, he got counseling and therapist help, and alot of other programs to try and help him; in the end he wound up having to be home schooled, and wouldn't talk to any one who wasn't in his family! It was an all to real situation, and even till today i still hate the 5 main kids who did the bullying.


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24 Apr 2009, 2:20 pm

NomadicAssassin wrote:
To an extent it's the victims fault, but if the victim is a kid he dosent have a mature thought process to get the help he needs, it is the bullies fault for the childs action, there for it is the bully who should be punished.

the victim was 11 years old. since the bullies were classmates they were the same age. they were also kids and they also did not have mature thought processes. if the victim can be excused of blame for being a kid then so can the bullies. this leaves only the parents teachers and school administrators to blame.



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24 Apr 2009, 2:25 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
iMark wrote:
ADoyle wrote:
iMark wrote:
i don't understand it was suicide by hanging not bullying

I think it means that the victim suffered bullying to the point where it led to the suicide.

what if the victim suffered getting fired, would the person who fired him be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting dumped by his girlfriend, would the ex-girlfriend be responsible?

what if the victim suffered getting a bad grade on a test, would the teacher who gave the grade be responsible?

the victim chose suicide when there were other alternatives. no one is responsible except the victim. suicide is the only time when blaming the victim is right.


All three things you mentioned are not the same as bullying.
I agree. All those things are completely different. Bullying is abuse. It's wrong. He couldn't stand the abuse, and he had no way of getting it to stop. It's the bullys' faults. They drove him to this with their incessant cruelty.



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24 Apr 2009, 3:14 pm

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I agree. All those things are completely different. Bullying is abuse. It's wrong. He couldn't stand the abuse, and he had no way of getting it to stop. It's the bullys' faults. They drove him to this with their incessant cruelty.

bullying is abuse and it is wrong i agree.

the victim could not stand the abuse. who can?

yet he only believed that he could not stop the abuse. i wonder if he reported the abuse to his teachers or parents. or did he tell the school administrators or police. did those people tell him that there was nothing that they could do? or did they simply tell him that he had somehow asked for it? why did no responsible adult notice what was going on and intervene?

no. it is either only the victims fault or it is the fault of everyone involved including those who could have or should have known and who could have or should have done something about it.

i think the poor kid felt abandoned by everybody he knew and turned to the only option that he thought remained. suicide.

now who taught him that suicide was an option? that is the person to blame.