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Michael Savage banned!

Just thought everyone should enjoy this as much as me!

i knew it all along. no savage love in great britain.

So much for the UK being for free speech. Even though I don't agree with the man, I still defend his right to say what he says.

Who's Michael Savage, and why is he controversial?

Tim, Alex had a little article about him a few months ago. He's a radio show host/idiot that says every stupid thing that pops into his head. You definitely should read the article that Alex posted.

Alex's Michael Savage post

I listen to this guy once in a while. He's actually quite entertaining. Kind of a mix between Jack Kerouac, William S. Boroughs and Bill Buckley...

Savage sounds almost like a really spot on liberal's impression of an old crotchety conservative if you don't take him too seriously. He does make some valid points about the over-diagnosis of autism.

I worry about the almost fascist measures the Brits are taking to maintain Political Correctness as of late. It won't take long for whatever's brewing over there to eventually reach our shores. Sure, it's all fine and dandy when it's one guy whose ideas you don't agree with gets silenced but this just set a very dangerous precedent. As the poem goes:

First They Came

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.

In practice the US immigration policy is a bit stricter then the UK. If you are talking about blacklist of individuals they are pretty similar in their approach, in fact there is a joint policy if the US bans a terrorist the UK with follow. I think that publishing a list is a bit of a gimmick however, and encourages people to try and get on it for kicks. This is more to do with domestic politics though, taking the heat off Labour MPs who have received a lot of bad press. These people are already on the blacklist it is nothing new.

I was gutted one of my favourite band the lead got deported back to the US, probably because of some previous such as pot. It is not as if they are making money anyway. Yet some rapper comes to play the Albert Hall in his private jet, They move to deport him over violence racketeering, and gun convictions, etc. He manages to get a reprieve from the high court to play, due to good lawyers.

What is weird is Mike Tyson isn't allowed back in, except he has a warrant for his arrest for not paying for some jewellery in Scotland (I might be wrong about the precise details).

I agree you have to be careful where you draw the line. "I want to bomb these people" or "go bomb these people". That is obvious a threat or incitement, but saying you hate some people is freedom of speech.

Non-citizens have rights under international law, basic human rights, etc. But they don’t have the same right as citizens of another country.

It would be ironic if Michael Savage would complain about it though. Considering he supports the whites only policy.

Anyway, I think they are focussing too much on publicity whores, rather than people who are actually a threat. Like they spend million monitoring Abu Hamza from the nineties on. Now do get me wrong the guy did publically incite, and quite likely involved in terrorist activities in the past (which obviously didn’t go too well for him considering his injuries). However he is not the brains of Al-Qaeda in UK. He is just big shouty guy, with very little to say of substance. They completely missed other people in the UK who likely had more much more senior rank in Al-Qaeda.

Godwin's Law in 6 posts.

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The European experience is quite different: If we allow those people to speak out they may overthrow the democratic institutions. A democracy is not just a set of rule how to govern, but must defend itself against its enemies, using the power of the democratic state. This concept has a name: "Militant Democracy".

There were other people on that list too. As I saw the headline, it only said "UK bans controversial radio host", and I wondered "Which one, Savage, Limbaugh, Stern, Imus?"
Will they also be banning Rock Star Energy Drink? (His son runs that company)

As much as Mr. Weiner is an obnoxious douche bag, he has the same freedoms as I do. Since Britain chooses to deny rights to my fellow man, by extension they deny them to me. I will not travel to the United Kingdom or deal with British companies (insofar as I can avoid it) until they reverse this childish behavior.

I've heard your explanations of Militant Democracy before, and I'm not fond of the concept.

A modern Niemröller
First they outlawed the neo-Nazis,
and I assented,
I am not an anti-Semite.

Then they went for the Islamic extremists,
I agreed,
I am not a terrorist.

Then they censored porn,
and I said nothing,
I am not a pervert.

Then they began to arrest homophobes,
and I said nothing,
I am tolerant of others' lifestyles.

When they come for me,
who will be left to speak up?

@.@

But we have here no "they" - it is the the democratic sovereign.

Such people something which is very close to High Treason: They deny the very philosophical basis on which a democratic state is build. Given this, they still enjoy too many freedoms - even here in Europe. I don't think if those Neo-Nazi (and alike) would come to power that the human rights would have any value at all. It is not football game in which "fair play" is important, it is the constant fight for surviving of the liberal democracy.

so, you had plants to travel to the UK?

what would they be missing by your protesting?

Great, anthropomorphizing some vague concept.


The philosophical basis of a democratic state is largely built on civil liberties and freedom of thought. Militant democracy denies those tenets and negates the basis of individual freedom.

@Oscuria: Educational opportunities for US students occasionally pop up the UK, and I had hoped to do study abroad in Scotland.

So the UK is making a blacklist based on peoples' words over their actions? If they were truly against harmful extremism, they'd ban extreme Islamists who threaten violence against other peoples, or Scientology altogether. But of course, taking away a man's right to say "KILL ALL JEWS" on a public street is against his free speech, and ending slave labor in a business disguised as a religion is "religious bigotry".