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LucidDreamGod
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23 Aug 2009, 8:06 am

There are certain ways that I'm not too smart. Sometimes I have difficulty in holding too many chunks of information in my head at once and working with it all. Like I'll lose track of what I'm trying to do the point I'm trying to make a lot. And I see other people do it and I just can't follow.



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16 Sep 2009, 5:27 pm

Isn't it more that people with AS are quite clever, but other parts of their mind can sorta.. cause a problem?
I think I averaged 117 in the IQ test the psychologist gave me last year (I was only diagnosed last year), but I also took this IQ test on Facebook and I got a score of 147.. maybe it can be a bit tricky to determine our IQs because of so many variables?



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29 Sep 2009, 6:05 pm

Aspies are very narrow thinkers. but neurotypicals are very shallow thinkers.

Tell me which is smarter?



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01 Oct 2009, 1:01 am

Intelligence varies among individuals, as does the definition of "smart." Which means the answer to this question is yes, no, and maybe.


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11 Nov 2009, 7:02 pm

My answer is NO.
We can be smart or stupid, just like other people are. We are only different, so we have different abilities than they have. That's all.
An aspie can be genius, an Autie can be genius but also an NT can be a savant.
We can all be intelligent and dumb. No matter ASD or NT.
It really depends on many things.


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21 Jan 2010, 10:48 am

Well, when it comes to academic skills, yes and no. Aspies have the potential to get A's in their classes, they need to figure when and how to just simply pass their classes, get all the help they need and learn how to be organized. I just recently started working my butt off concerning school related issues and being aware of the many things including deadlines and whatnot (because i am super close to being kicked out from school) and I really want to get a Bachelors degree super bad.
I guess my issue is sometimes I want something really bad, I just almost kill myself to acheive my goal. I remember when I was trying to get my permit in high school and I almost had a super stressful life because I had trouble getting my permit (took me 4-5 tries though) but I eventually got it. Sometimes I want something sooo bad to the point I just kill myself to get the result. If you use the Aspie way of learning things, meaning doing things repetitvely to the point you nail down everything perfectly for lets say school related issue, you will actually go somewhere in life. So Aspies are technically smart and can do good in school if one, they have motivation and two, know what in the world they are doing.



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21 Jan 2010, 3:28 pm

Good, old Wikipedia defines Aspergers as a "High Functioning Autism" that is of "Average or Above Average" intelligence. I, myself, am one of the only few in my year that is predicted straight A's and Distinctions, however, I lack alot of common sense (touching a boiling hot test-tube that I had just recently heated as part of a Science Experiment in an attempt to pick it up, despite a pair of tongs being located right next to the test-tube) and I'm very gullible (meaning that if someone were to walk by me and tap me on the opposite shoulder to which they were located, I would fall for it every time - despite knowing that they were positioned behind my other shoulder each time).



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30 Jan 2010, 6:59 pm

I'm not a genius.... some people think I'm clever because I have a good vocabulary and know lots of pointless crap... but I'm around average.... maybe slightly above... I know one guy with aspergers who quite thick... but thinks he's some sort of genius... and my best friend (who has Aspergers) is about average... though very gifted with music!



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31 Jan 2010, 12:57 pm

exhausted wrote:
lol. it depends on how you define "smart."


Exactly right. We're very good at memorising information about our obsessions, and people have called me smart because of that before, but I personally think that's stupid... Anyone can memorise something if they have reason/motivation to do so.

How does anyone define intelligence anyway? Is it defined by school grades, which change over time for different subjects? Is it defined by IQ tests - the inventor of which said it wasen't for accurately measuring intelligence - the results of which also change over time? Is it defined by how much you can memorise? Is it defined by how much money you make? By how good your job is - something very subjective anyway - and what company you work for?

Think about it for a minute. You can't really define intelligence, much less condense it to a number or attribute it certain group of people.

I'll leave you with this, though: Alan Sugar has bad dyslexia and got low grades in school. Today he is worth over £800m, thanks to his self-made fortune created by his business empire.



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15 Feb 2010, 12:34 pm

As previously said, it depends on your definition of intelligent. Intellect is notoriously difficult to quantify. If you go by IQs you would find that on average aspies have higher IQs. However, IQ tests have been strongly criticized because of their bias and inaccuracy. Apparently being able to move blocks around fast is considered a form of intelligence in an IQ test. The memory test for IQs is also inadequate. It fails to take into account the variations in which people remember. If you go by grades, well, that would also be pretty iffy. A lot of are disorganized, can't pay attention in class or lack the social skills needed to interact with the teacher or with group work. Grades don't even test intelligence as much as it tests ability to conform and organization. Intelligence is needed to get very good grades depending on the subject matter and the teacher, but there are idiots with amazing grades and geniuses with horrible ones. When it comes to knowledge, aspies tend to know a great deal of information but it is mostly about one or two subjects. There are exceptions but that is the general rule. Regardless of all of this there is a great deal of individual variation. By definition someone with Asperger's must have average or higher intelligence so you won't find any mentally ret*d people with Asperger's but you will certainly find plenty of average intelligence.



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23 Feb 2010, 11:38 am

I'd agree on the book smart, common sense issue. Kind of like the new age engineers. There was a DOT engineer around here who's plan got sent to albany. Everyone thought he was a genius. Until the public found out he was just going to close down the entire main highway for miles.

I scored a 160 on the IQ test (Not bragging, just using it to explain.) but yet I have more lists of things to do then my grandparents. :p. (I also forget to look at the list...) But I can sit here and ramble off pharmacology stuff to you till I'm blue. They said when I was born I had a photographic memory. It seems to me the only thing that's good for is remembering the embarrassing things that trigger meltdowns. They can play like a video. Ex: The time in 9th grade when I got bored leaned back in a chair, hit the whiteboard made a noise and everyone looked.

It seems you hear autism and say stupid as a stereotype. Especially in the younger age group. I never got along with anyone my age. It was either young kids or adults.

When I was in public school, I had grades of 16 in classes, told I wouldn't graduate etc. I wore a hood one day after being scared, got called a terrorist...issues happened and I got transferred to an Alternative School with small classes and I graduated 3rd in my class.

So being an Aspie dosen't mean "you're smart" in my opinion. It means you're brain functions differently and until you find the right way to use it...it's hard. When I had my review they said to me plain out: We know you're smart, but when you meltdown, hit yourself in the head and lose control - you act like you're stupid.

That triggered in me a want to change. Which somehow led me to here.

I'm proud of myself for actually talking on here...I don't know how long my new found guts will last. But I'm hoping I can help someone or they can help me in the mean time.



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24 Feb 2010, 1:16 am

crownarmourer wrote:
Obviously not if you can not spell really correctly.


I was thinking exactly the same thing lol



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23 Apr 2010, 11:55 am

The majority of the aspies i think are smarter than the average "normal" person. I`m one of these aspies but i think some aspies are averege smart and a little group are under the average intellegence.

Sorry for my english. :oops:



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23 Apr 2010, 1:27 pm

vidde95 wrote:
The majority of the aspies i think are smarter than the average "normal" person. I`m one of these aspies but i think some aspies are averege smart and a little group are under the average intellegence.

Sorry for my english. :oops:


I'm not a genius, hehe :)
And your english is fine.



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23 Apr 2010, 1:58 pm

From what I've seen, those with Aspergers do tend to score higher on IQ tests, but that doesn't mean every person with Aspergers is really smart. However, someone else already mentioned it in this thread, people with Aspergers are geniuses when it comes to certain things (book smart) but lack common sense a lot of the time. I know that that applies to me as well. :/



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24 Apr 2010, 5:01 pm

By the atrocious spelling of the title of your post, i think not :P