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Have you ever been bullied at school?
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29 Dec 2008, 8:43 pm

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IGNORING THE BULLIES OR TORMENTORS WILL NOT MAKE THEM STOP OR LESSEN THEIR HARASSMENT.

If you think you have any chance at all of winning a fight with one of them then go for it.

Any form of violence is NOT the answer...

Although I can't give much advice, I understand what you're going through and I hope for the best. I switched to homeschooling when I couldn't handle public school anymore, is that a possibility for you?



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29 Dec 2008, 8:52 pm

Ignoring them wont work. Telling the teachers will label you as a snitch. Fighting will get you in trouble, but is worth it if you think you can win. If they are just verbally harassing you, know that they are only words and cannot harm you. If they are physically harrassing you, then you should probablly tell the teacher. If they are pulling pranks on you, try to out smart them or do something to humilate them. I know its not easy for an aspie to make verbal comebacks to verbally abusive bullies. I never could when i was a kid because i just couldnt think of anything to say back and when i did they would just think what i said was funny and stupid. What i can advise you is start working out and eating healthy while your young. Youll get big and strong and nobody will want to mess with you when your older. However as you get older people will become more uninterested in bullying, but if you get big and strong it will make life much easier for you because even adults can try to take advantage of people who they see as an easy target and might try to rob you or something. Now is the perfect time to start learning how to deal with these kinds of things becuase if you didnt get bullied now, you wouldnt know how to deal with bullies when your an adult.



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29 Dec 2008, 8:54 pm

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IGNORING THE BULLIES OR TORMENTORS WILL NOT MAKE THEM STOP OR LESSEN THEIR HARASSMENT.

If you think you have any chance at all of winning a fight with one of them then go for it.

Any form of violence is NOT the answer...

Although I can't give much advice, I understand what you're going through and I hope for the best. I switched to homeschooling when I couldn't handle public school anymore, is that a possibility for you?


Sometimes violence is the only answer. Most times, it is the only answer that bullies understand. Violence is not wrong. It is unprovoked violence that is wrong. Police use violence quite often in order to affect an arrest. Do you believe that the police should forgo violence and let the serial killer continue his behavior? Should a man let another man come into his neighbor's house and rape his neighbor's wife? Violence is OK when it is used appropriately, however, it should NOT be the first answer.

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Ignoring them wont work. Telling the teachers will label you as a snitch. Fighting will get you in trouble, but is worth it if you think you can win. If they are just verbally harassing you, know that they are only words and cannot harm you. If they are physically harrassing you, then you should probablly tell the teacher. If they are pulling pranks on you, try to out smart them or do something to humilate them. I know its not easy for an aspie to make verbal comebacks to verbally abusive bullies. I never could when i was a kid because i just couldnt think of anything to say back and when i did they would just think what i said was funny and stupid. What i can advise you is start working out and eating healthy while your young. Youll get big and strong and nobody will want to mess with you when your older. However as you get older people will become more uninterested in bullying, but if you get big and strong it will make life much easier for you because even adults can try to take advantage of people who they see as an easy target and might try to rob you or something. Now is the perfect time to start learning how to deal with these kinds of things becuase if you didnt get bullied now, you wouldnt know how to deal with bullies when your an adult.


I have walked down some city streets that many other people were afraid of walking down. I have NEVER BEEN MUGGED, BEATEN UP, ETC. I believe this is the result of two things 1. YHWH protecting me. 2. The fact that I don't look like prey, so I am not treated as prey. But it is like you say, when someone learns how to deal with bullies when they are young, they will know how to do it when they are old. If I have to, I will give an attacker a big hug while I am biting off his nose. I don't want to be violent, but I will be when forced into it. I also believe in turning the other cheek when the situation is appropriate. Even though I have been through some bad neighborhoods, I try to avoid places where there is trouble. Unless I have to, I don't go to bars, nightclubs or other places where there is a high potential for trouble.

I recommend learning martial arts, revenge tactics, how to build destructive devices, etc, because the knowledge that you can really cause a great deal of death and destruction radiates in you personality, body language, etc. Please keep in mind that a person who works with autistic people will know what I am right away. However most (autistic aware or not) will also know that I am not easy prey as well.


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29 Dec 2008, 9:17 pm

buryuntime wrote:
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IGNORING THE BULLIES OR TORMENTORS WILL NOT MAKE THEM STOP OR LESSEN THEIR HARASSMENT.

If you think you have any chance at all of winning a fight with one of them then go for it.

Any form of violence is NOT the answer...

Although I can't give much advice, I understand what you're going through and I hope for the best. I switched to homeschooling when I couldn't handle public school anymore, is that a possibility for you?


i don't think so



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29 Dec 2008, 9:18 pm

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buryuntime wrote:
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IGNORING THE BULLIES OR TORMENTORS WILL NOT MAKE THEM STOP OR LESSEN THEIR HARASSMENT.

If you think you have any chance at all of winning a fight with one of them then go for it.

Any form of violence is NOT the answer...

Although I can't give much advice, I understand what you're going through and I hope for the best. I switched to homeschooling when I couldn't handle public school anymore, is that a possibility for you?


Sometimes violence is the only answer. Most times, it is the only answer that bullies understand. Violence is not wrong. It is unprovoked violence that is wrong. Police use violence quite often in order to affect an arrest. Do you believe that the police should forgo violence and let the serial killer continue his behavior? Should a man let another man come into his neighbor's house and rape his neighbor's wife? Violence is OK when it is used appropriately, however, it should NOT be the first answer.

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Ignoring them wont work. Telling the teachers will label you as a snitch. Fighting will get you in trouble, but is worth it if you think you can win. If they are just verbally harassing you, know that they are only words and cannot harm you. If they are physically harrassing you, then you should probablly tell the teacher. If they are pulling pranks on you, try to out smart them or do something to humilate them. I know its not easy for an aspie to make verbal comebacks to verbally abusive bullies. I never could when i was a kid because i just couldnt think of anything to say back and when i did they would just think what i said was funny and stupid. What i can advise you is start working out and eating healthy while your young. Youll get big and strong and nobody will want to mess with you when your older. However as you get older people will become more uninterested in bullying, but if you get big and strong it will make life much easier for you because even adults can try to take advantage of people who they see as an easy target and might try to rob you or something. Now is the perfect time to start learning how to deal with these kinds of things becuase if you didnt get bullied now, you wouldnt know how to deal with bullies when your an adult.


I have walked down some city streets that many other people were afraid of walking down. I have NEVER BEEN MUGGED, BEATEN UP, ETC. I believe this is the result of two things 1. YHWH protecting me. 2. The fact that I don't look like prey, so I am not treated as prey. But it is like you say, when someone learns how to deal with bullies when they are young, they will know how to do it when they are old. If I have to, I will give an attacker a big hug while I am biting off his nose. I don't want to be violent, but I will be when forced into it. I also believe in turning the other cheek when the situation is appropriate. Even though I have been through some bad neighborhoods, I try to avoid places where there is trouble. Unless I have to, I don't go to bars, nightclubs or other places where there is a high potential for trouble.

I recommend learning martial arts, revenge tactics, how to build destructive devices, etc, because the knowledge that you can really cause a great deal of death and destruction radiates in you personality, body language, etc. Please keep in mind that a person who works with autistic people will know what I am right away. However most (autistic aware or not) will also know that I am not easy prey as well.


OK



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29 Dec 2008, 10:15 pm

Ignoreing my bullies always failed 100%. Telling a grown up worked, but back them I hated my bullies so much that I prefered beating them as hard as I could. Examples?

1. I rode the bus and one girl insulted me for no reason. She sat behind me for a clean reach to my lovely head, of course. I always looked out the window while rideing the bus, because I talked to nobody on it. (ok, so I was born a loner. *shrug*) She accuses me of crying (which was obviously stupid, because I wasn't) and pulls my hair really, really hard. Never worked with her. Wished I realised, at the time, that she did it to everybody and what a sad little minority she was.

2. Ignore the potty jokes and death wishes of various male peers, and two very mean females ones, only to feel it sink in nearly everytime. Even though I don't show it, they didn't stop it. Add a few game points to the fact that because I ignored them they hated me even more and called me weak, friendless, stupid, and worthless. And I could go on..



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29 Dec 2008, 11:47 pm

Try telling a teacher, princepal or your parnets. Just dont fight them back or you will be kicked out from a week - 2 weeks. Trust me fighting back is not a good idea.



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30 Dec 2008, 12:13 am

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I recommend taking the high road and telling your teachers, counselors, and principal about it. If nothing is done, then explain that you will defend yourself if need be. Let your parents know as well. Make sure the bullying and teasing is reported and it is on the record so that you will have a defense should you have to take matters into your own hands. If the staff ridicules you or make you feel like an idiot for reporting it, then you might also send a letter to you local paper. Make sure people know that you tried to handle things peacefully. That way if and when you are forced to take action, you can lay the blame where it belongs.
IGNORING THE BULLIES OR TORMENTORS WILL NOT MAKE THEM STOP OR LESSEN THEIR HARASSMENT.

If you think you have any chance at all of winning a fight with one of them then go for it. You WILL VERY likely be suspended or get an equally severe punishment, so make it count. I recommend fighting dirty. That means scratching, biting throwing sand in the bully's face or whatever you have to do. If you catch him off guard and get sand or whatever in his eyes, follow up with more attack. MAKE IT COUNT so you will hopefully not have to put up with any more abuse.

If you cannot fight at all, and you know for sure you will be creamed, or if you fight, lose, and the abuse continues, then you will have to use sneaky methods of ridding yourself of the bullies. A quart milk jug filled partway with urine and a couple of raw eggs set up for a couple of weeks makes an awful gagging stinking mess. Try bringing a small nonmetal container of that into the place where the bullying is occuring and stealthily put a few drops on the seat of the bully's desk. Make sure you don't get caught or else the bully might make you sit there. Also do it in a place where it is very unlikely for an innocent person to get the mess on him or herself. If you don't make up your own stuff, a can of sardines can be easily purchase for about a couple of bucks, and the juice smells like rank body odor! A small container of real butter (not margarine or other similar spread or butter substitute) left out in the hot sun a week or two does not smell too nice (makes butyric acid). There are hundreds and thousands of Internet sites that specialize in revenge information.

If the bully is into stealing your food, consider lacing it with something like exlax, raw chicken juice, etc. Another trick is to switch out the bully's school work or in other covert ways of making him or her look like a total idiot. Another way to make them look like idiots is to beat them out on academic contests, spelling bees, grades, etc. Show them how dumb they really are WITHOUT RUBBING THEIR NOSES IN IT.

I grew up before the days of one on one aides, IEP's or any other help for autistic children, so needless to say, I was given special attention by most every kid in school, especially during middle school. I tried the route of ignoring them, but that never worked, The bullying continued until I snapped. A classic autie on the rampage is not a nice thing. I was threatened with punishment, but nothing happened to me that time. The bullying continued unfortunately, but not as near as frequently.

There are many here and in the world who are very appalled at how I suggest fighting back, but I believe that
it is better for you to take care of the problem and get a less severe punishment than it is to let it get to the point where you bring guns and go Columbine on these idiots or go into deep depression. Nobody deserves to be subjected to daily group torment, ridicule, and bullying.


First of all, fighting tactics such as poking and clawing at someone's eyes could end up with a felony charge if you permanently damage someone's vision. If you want revenge on someone stealing your lunch, I would suggest making some kind of a nasty sandwich such as peanut butter, raw onions and sardines. Don't spike with ex-lax or raw chicken juice. That could get you in trouble for attempted poisoning. Don't bring noxious chemicals to school. In today's environment that is a big no-no. Make sure any revenge you do is legal. Talk this over with your teacher, guidance counselor first before you have any ideas of revenge.


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30 Dec 2008, 12:13 am

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Try telling a teacher, princepal or your parnets. Just dont fight them back or you will be kicked out from a week - 2 weeks. Trust me fighting back is not a good idea.


It is AFTER YOU TELL THE TEACHERS and they DO NOTHING. Then it is time to fight back with all you might and make every second of those two weeks worth it. If one doesn't fight back with fists and teeth then one can use revenge tactics, but by all means DO FIGHT BACK! My nephew was suspended TWICE for fighting his bullies. They threatened to put him in an alternative school program and his mom said that they would be goung to court unless the same happened to the bully. He was finally left alone. Fighting and dirty trick are about the only things a bully understands. If the school employees don't put a stop to it then it is up to the victim to do so.


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30 Dec 2008, 1:05 am

I was verbally abused by classmates in middle school. It didn't last too long because I laughed when they made fun of me. Doing so not only relieved my nervousness in such situations, but it also made it seem that their insults didn't work well, and they moved on to targets that had more negative reactions. Sure, they made fun of me for awhile for being weird by laughing at insults, but like I said, if you act like they don't bug you, they'll stop bugging you.

I would also recommend reading Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. It's one of the most famous Science Fiction books for young adults around, so your local library most likely has it. A large portion of the book is about bullying and dealing with it. It is also a very good read, period.


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30 Dec 2008, 3:48 am

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I'm a 12 (almost 13) years old and I have been the victim of being bullied at school if you have any advice for me on how to deal with this please post a message.
Some examples are that people call me pirhana and shark face and they write notes about me in class and just typical stuff.


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Priceless. The standards for bullying have been lowered.

Ignored bullies my whole life. No regrets. If you're capable of it, I'd suggest befriending them, or beating the s**t of them so that they'll learn for life that they shouldn't mess with you, or something along those lines.



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30 Dec 2008, 4:33 am

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I'm a 12 (almost 13) years old and I have been the victim of being bullied at school if you have any advice for me on how to deal with this please post a message.


If you're a big kid, maybe you should try beating the s**t out of them. Also they wont expect you to fight back so if you attack one, youd get a good headstart on the kid. Try telling them to stop first. Only fight back if its your only option.



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30 Dec 2008, 5:38 am

I never let bullying bother me and I don't want to even suggest this because I'm against violance but have you considered self-defense or martial arts? A display of power might be enough, no physical contact may need to be made. I suggest you get a friend to play fight you in a scene after school where everyone can see, do some martial arts and that should easily get them to stop or at least get other people to become your friends but that may be hard seeing how I couldn't even do that when I was in school, too many people or too much pressure etcetera.


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30 Dec 2008, 10:42 am

OK guys u've given me great advice i'll try it @ school. thanks~Coco



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OK guys u've given me great advice i'll try it @ school. thanks~Coco


Please tell me how it goes if you go with one of my tips.


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It's not that serious I mean I tell the teacher and all and she handles it, but other than those boys @ school i'm really fine.


the second u mentioned boys it explains all. boys at that age are stupid and insensitive so don't worry about it. I suggest having someone u can talk to about it just to vent.

And remember school doesn't last forever, thank god. I was bullied severely at school and left at 16 since then I went to college for 4 years and I have become better off because of wot the bullies put me through I decided that I wud have a better life than they did and I was going to become a better person. Bullies made me who I am today because of the way they treated me it made me not treat ppl the way they treated me. As it happens one of the boys who bullied me at school has now become a really nice guy and we put everything in the past and even wished each other a happy new year. Since leaving school I have seen some of the other bullies and they now have kids to different fathers and most of them are drug users. So I succeeded that my life is better than theirs because I was made stronger by wot they did to me rather than take the easy option and become a weak person who listened to wot they sed and believed wot they sed. Bullies are nothing but cowards who have to bring other ppl down because their life is so bad that they enjoy other ppls pain coz it takes their mind off their worthless lives.

coco if u want to talk to someone feel free to chat to me :)

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