Going off to camp
EaglesSayMeow
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I need some suggestions for dealing with camp. I'm going to be gone for 13 days.
I've been to camp before, I almost never have problems with homesickness.
However, I always have problems socially with camp.
Every year, for the past three years, I've gone to a three week sleepaway camp. These tend to be more academic than outdoors (I went to JHU-CTY (http://cty.jhu.edu/) in 2007, and SIG (http://www.giftedstudy.org/) in 2008 and 2009.
The first two or three days are decent, but I have trouble coping by the fourth or fifth day due to there just being too. many. people. around. This is usually due to too many people coming into my room, invited in by my roommate. Last year, I got fed up on the eighth day, and broke down in a stairway.
The camps themselves are wonderful. However, after a few days, my roommate makes friends. She then proceeds to invite them over to her room. I can't get any personal space whatsoever, and I just break down.
I don't think it's a "meltdown" like I get when I don't play with my "squishies" but it's something. It starts to all pile up on me and then I just can't take it anymore, there are too many people and I just can't take it and I want to scream. I feel like this in class sometimes, when everyone starts yelling. At school, I ask to go to the restroom, and take a few breaths in there, then calm down. Except for that one time before class when I hid under a desk.
Back to camp.
Then, I go somewhere quiet and cry with a blanket for an hour or so. This cycle, once started, will repeat in a stairway somewhere every day until camp is over. (Or a closet. One day, I couldn't get to the stairs so I locked myself, a booklight (for light) and a blanket, in the walk-in closet for an hour)
It's going to be worse here, at this camp. Most camps, my space doesn't get invaded in the first week, since my roommate will still be meeting others. This camp is school run, so everyone will already know everyone (except for me, I just came in this year from the US) and will already start being social.
Hopefully, I'll be able to be a bit more open with my roommate, since I already know her and she's gotten used to my quirks, to a point (she won't comment when I start playing with squishies to calm down, and she won't try and invade my personal space) so maybe she'll be willing to leave me alone.
The camp won't be the same, though. This is a two week language immersion program. The language is Chinese. My new school, her in Hong Kong, is dual language, so every other kid in my grade has studied Chinese for two to ten years. My roommate has been learning for seven. This is my first year. Therefore, I won't be able to communicate, since for everything except basic survival skills, we'll be instructed in Chinese.
Anyone have any coping strategies/tips? I'll be leaving tomorrow morning, but I just thought I'd ask.
EaglesSayMeow
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Thanks. My roommate has no clue that I'm probably an aspie (currently without a dx) but she's gotten to know me this year, like I said. I managed to explain everything to her without using the words aspergers, autism, stim, or meltdown.
I Like writing short stories, and one of my characters has definite aspie traits, though I never use those words, in case someone gets ahold of my notebook and puts two and two together.
Therefore, before letting her read the story, I explained to her that there's a certain group of behaviors that have a name, but that's not essential to the story. However, it would probably be helpful for her to know how the character acts. After giving her a quick overview of them, after she was done reading, I asked her whether I was similar to this. She agreed, so I explained that I'm not very social at camp, and that sometimes I'll start reciting phrases or rubbing my lips or whatever (stimming) and that this is normal for me, she just never saw because she's only near me thirty five hours a week, instead of all the time, and that I'd very much appreciate her leaving it alone and not mocking me.
So far there have been few problems, other than overstimulation during class time since the teachers can't control us.
I have about the same problem!
(At this point I am performing a dance of recognition )
But no, seriously, this is exactly the problem I have, only from your explanation I think you react heavier to it than me.
In my case, I just HAVE to be alone after a day or three, in order to calm down. If I do not get the opportunity to do so, I will become pissed at everyone with very little reason very easily, I become depressive far quicker than normally and will be even less able to socialize with other people, even with the ones I know quite well.
I see it as a kind of breakdown of my mental immune system, which normally keeps me together and consciously tries to correct many of the aspie-deficiencies (the negative sides of asperger's). When I don't get time to talk to myself and order the past events and process them, this system fades, and eventually I will get something like a meltdown. And even if I don't, I will notice the effect for many weeks after the camp, still.
Maybe I could think of some advice, if it were still needed, but at this late hour I can't seem to think of anything. (1:00 Sunday morning )
I have, over time, developed somthing very much like 'instant meditation', which enables me to make use of very small breaks to keep myself together - which unfortunately requires me to be quite concentrated in the first place. So as quick as I lose it, I'm lost anyway, so to speak...
I know how you feel. Camp is beyond my abilities.
Can you go elsewhere mentally even as your physical space is being invaded? Are there enough bathrooms to regularly lock yourself in one? What about an area nobody likes to go?
I can't help but feel that this will fail miserably for you, as you describe its having done in the past. However, perhaps there's a way to make do with less space. Can you hide under the covers? Lose yourself in a book?
EaglesSayMeow
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(At this point I am performing a dance of recognition )
But no, seriously, this is exactly the problem I have, only from your explanation I think you react heavier to it than me.
In my case, I just HAVE to be alone after a day or three, in order to calm down. If I do not get the opportunity to do so, I will become pissed at everyone with very little reason very easily, I become depressive far quicker than normally and will be even less able to socialize with other people, even with the ones I know quite well.
I see it as a kind of breakdown of my mental immune system, which normally keeps me together and consciously tries to correct many of the aspie-deficiencies (the negative sides of asperger's). When I don't get time to talk to myself and order the past events and process them, this system fades, and eventually I will get something like a meltdown. And even if I don't, I will notice the effect for many weeks after the camp, still.
Maybe I could think of some advice, if it were still needed, but at this late hour I can't seem to think of anything. (1:00 Sunday morning )
I have, over time, developed somthing very much like 'instant meditation', which enables me to make use of very small breaks to keep myself together - which unfortunately requires me to be quite concentrated in the first place. So as quick as I lose it, I'm lost anyway, so to speak...
I do react pretty heavily, I guess. I had a total breakdown in front of my English teacher last nigt, which was embarassing but good since he now knows to watch out for this a bit.
My only other problem now is with the councillors. Do you think it's reasonable to ask for my friend to stay with me, if I'm having trouble? The teacher shooed her away, but she would have been helpful, since I'd explained what might happen in advance.
I'd say more but I borrowed an iPhone so it's a bit hard to type.
(Edited due to iPhone glitches)
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My only other problem now is with the councillors. Do you think it's reasonable to ask for my friend to stay with me, if I'm having trouble? The teacher shooed her away, but she would have been helpful, since I'd explained what might happen in advance.
I'd say more but I borrowed an iPhone so it's a bit hard to type.
If you think it would help if she stayed with you at such moments, I would really ask her to do so!
You really should not isolate yourself in situations like this, I think, as it might become a downward spiral...
I was wondering; Does the camp itself compensate for the breakdowns?
Anyway, I hope everything is fine there at the moment!
Good luck!
EaglesSayMeow
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My only other problem now is with the councillors. Do you think it's reasonable to ask for my friend to stay with me, if I'm having trouble? The teacher shooed her away, but she would have been helpful, since I'd explained what might happen in advance.
I'd say more but I borrowed an iPhone so it's a bit hard to type.
If you think it would help if she stayed with you at such moments, I would really ask her to do so!
You really should not isolate yourself in situations like this, I think, as it might become a downward spiral...
I was wondering; Does the camp itself compensate for the breakdowns?
Anyway, I hope everything is fine there at the moment!
Good luck!
Thanks for the luck!
I tried asking her to stay, but the teachers, etc insisted. I informed her later that I'd appreciate her staying, she'll try next time.
If you mean, is the camp worth it, it's mandatory. Could you clarify the statement, "Does the camp itself compensate for the breakdowns?" please?
EaglesSayMeow
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Oh yeah, just to add something.
Scarlet, I expect you'll be seeing this sometime. Surprised? Anyways, you're pretty much the first person I've told, please keep my life private. I'm still me, but you have to admit that this explains a lot.
To everyone else, Scarlet is my roommate here. I told her that if she ever gets curious, go on wrongplanet; it'll explain everything. I figure she deserves an explanation, she's been completely awesome these past two weeks.
Thank you so much for everything, I hope you feel better. (Scarlet got the flu or something.)
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I tried asking her to stay, but the teachers, etc insisted. I informed her later that I'd appreciate her staying, she'll try next time.
If you mean, is the camp worth it, it's mandatory. Could you clarify the statement, "Does the camp itself compensate for the breakdowns?" please?
Is the camp itself nice? How are you getting along?
I mean, does the whole camp feel like something bad you'll just have to live through, or do you enjoy it as well sometimes?
Or maybe it was a weird way of asking "Is it all that bad?"
EaglesSayMeow
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I tried asking her to stay, but the teachers, etc insisted. I informed her later that I'd appreciate her staying, she'll try next time.
If you mean, is the camp worth it, it's mandatory. Could you clarify the statement, "Does the camp itself compensate for the breakdowns?" please?
Is the camp itself nice? How are you getting along?
I mean, does the whole camp feel like something bad you'll just have to live through, or do you enjoy it as well sometimes?
Or maybe it was a weird way of asking "Is it all that bad?"
Well, I finally got back today. On the whole, I'd say that I just tried to endure it. I'm not used to boys in general (Before this year, I'd been at a girls-only school for six years), so most of the camp was just me trying to figure out what was going on. It didn't help that most of my classmates use nonverbal communication to give instructions, it seems.