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07 Aug 2009, 6:42 pm

i honestly dont know a single person with aspergers so judging by my grades we must all be geniuses



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07 Aug 2009, 6:49 pm

No.



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07 Aug 2009, 7:14 pm

lol. it depends on how you define "smart."



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07 Aug 2009, 7:37 pm

Regardless of how you define smart, the answer will still be "no". Unless you define smart so as to include 99.9% of the human race, in which case the answer becomes "maybe".



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07 Aug 2009, 7:57 pm

not if you mean IQ of 101-5000+ (scoring system isn't that extreme) or taking all honors courses

Like everyone said, depends on your definition of smart


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07 Aug 2009, 10:25 pm

From what little I know about AS, I can safely say this:

First of all, since people with Asperger's syndrome have peaks and valleys on their IQ subtests,i.e. some subtests of the IQ test have higher scores and some scores are lower on the same IQ test, and since the IQ score is the average of these subtests (subtests - the little parts or tests for which are scored that make up the big test, like chapters in a book), those with AS have skewed IQ scores. However, taking this into account, and using the central limit theorem, the graph for the IQ scores for most with AS approximates a normal distribution curve (um...a bell shaped curve) and the average IQ for one that has Asperger's is around 115. That means roughly, 68% of those with AS have an IQ between 100 and 130, 95% of those with AS have an IQ of 85 and 145, and so on...(or in mathematical terms, the mean of the normal distribution curve is one standard deviation to the right of the NT's mean)

Again, note what I said earlier...these IQ scores for aspies are skewed slightly, and even more for auties. Where the *(^&*%^& did I get this information? From my psychologist who administered my IQ test two years ago. This test was the WAIS-R for adults, and was consisted of little subtests within the whole test. I believe the cost of this test was somewhere in the 300 dollar range, and was necessary to determine whether I was an NT or not. (NT's scores, yes they can vary...but usually the subtests have little variance; e.g. one subtest might be 101, another 103, a third 99...and so on where an aspie, whose subtests will have more variance, might have the following subtest scores: 110, 90, 125, 85, and so on)

I hope I'm right, but this was my understanding of the whole IQ thing. If I'm wrong, please don't insult me; just correct me. I'm not perfect, and my understanding can easily be flawed.



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08 Aug 2009, 12:16 am

Obviously not if you can not spell really correctly.
Aspies are probably book smart but lousy when it comes to common sense. Ask my friends or family.



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08 Aug 2009, 6:32 am

There's hardly a difference in level of smartness between an Aspie and a normal person.

Some people with Aspergers are geniuses though, e.g. Bill Gates.


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08 Aug 2009, 10:05 am

Like it's been said, people with Aspergers are highly intelligent in some skills yet struggle in other subjects. For instance in school I've always made a steady A in subjects such as History and Literature, but I've always had extreme difficulties with math. I can't even do simple addition without having to pause and use my fingers to count, so I've always had to work extra hard in Math to pass.

The way my old therapist explained it is that when it comes to certain skills, people with Aspergers may be advanced in one skill and not-so-advanced in the other. But other skills we're kind of average at.



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13 Aug 2009, 12:00 am

People with Autism, Aspergers Syndrome, PDD-NOS, or whatever diagnosis more then likely have intelligence that is above average or average. Not everyone can be an Einstein, not everyone can be an Amy Lee, and not everyone can be a Gandhi, but everyone, no matter what diagnosis they have should be the best that they can be no matter what. No one should let IQ tests intimidate them either. It's just a view of what our culture "thinks" everyone should be good at and what they "think" everyone should know.

My two cents. :) And if I confused anyone, sorry, I'll be more then happy to clarify what I said.



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13 Aug 2009, 3:23 am

Ikas90 wrote:
Some people with Aspergers are geniuses though, e.g. Bill Gates.

Ive seen people mention him a few times and I'm curious, has Bill Gates actually been diagnosed with AS, or is it just specualtion?

In answer to the OP's question, I don't know many other people with Asperger's either, but I don't think it affects overall intelligence very much, as most of us are very intelligent in some areas, but not very intelligent in others.



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14 Aug 2009, 11:35 am

I-ron_Man wrote:
Ikas90 wrote:
Some people with Aspergers are geniuses though, e.g. Bill Gates.

Ive seen people mention him a few times and I'm curious, has Bill Gates actually been diagnosed with AS, or is it just specualtion?

In answer to the OP's question, I don't know many other people with Asperger's either, but I don't think it affects overall intelligence very much, as most of us are very intelligent in some areas, but not very intelligent in others.


Doing a search, I can find no evidence that Bill Gates is an aspie. I would advise you to not take the claims of famous people having Asperger's seriously. These 'facts' have been passed around throughout our boards a lot, but I'm quite sure that nobody outside Wrong Planet believes it. We are just making assumptions based on descriptions of him. It's very easy to spot traits of AS in people who don't really have it; the distinction between us and NTs is not very clear-cut in many cases.

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Many articles and blogs reference the possibility of Bill Gates as having Asperger's Syndrome but it is a spectrum disorder. We can look at anyone and declare, "ah ha! You did ___ so you have it too!" and people in extraordinary circumstances, be it special needs like Asperger's or needing a wheelchair or deaf or whatever the case, find comfort in associating with celebrities in the same situation.

Gates has a remarkable intellect and, once and a while, he rocks when he answers questions from the media. (So did Ronald Reagan!) That does not mean that he has Asperger's Syndrome. He has no problem engaging in eye contact, but he doesn't stare. Watch him at press conferences or on Charlie Rose, he is able to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accents; and he picks up on social cues and people's body language. Clearly, he's able to start and maintain conversations. Of course, he was focused on computers at an early age, enough to have become the richest man in the world, but focus is critical for success. Ask any famous ballerina or Olympic athlete. So, the answer is No, Bill Gates doesn't have Asperger's Syndrome.

We've all been told that George Washington had wooden teeth, but he didn't. He was a very rich man; his false teeth were ivory. "Everyone knows it" can be a good definition of a rumor. Just because you have read in the media that Bill Gates "might' have Asperger's Syndrome, does not mean he has it. And just because a number of Microsoft employees do have AS, doesn't mean the founder of the company does. Spread the word.
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14 Aug 2009, 7:59 pm

No, i speculate many of my friends have aspergers yet they aren't too bright. I know though for a fact that most variations of aspergers don't leave you super smart so the answer is no.



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14 Aug 2009, 10:33 pm

well...

the notion that all aspies are genuises is just wrong in my view.

im an aspie, and i wouldnt say that im more smart than other people, i just seem....avarage


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21 Aug 2009, 5:04 pm

Its hard to say. I wouldn't say all though, by proper real life experience. I know about 9-10 Aspies in real life, and they kind of have variations in intellect. My friend Ben for example has massive knowledge pools, and understand moral/ethical issues and similar things to a very high standard, but NTs categorise on intellect in different ways. Though I would assume from how well he draws 'Artistic Genius' fits nicely. Me on the other hand, well i've been called genius way too many times to remember, for intense knowledge of science (physics, biology and chemistry) that I can both apply in situations and access automatically, along with things i've worked out without knowing previously. I think its due to the fact that the obsessions aspie's get place more time into a specific subjects, so whereas NTs may socialise and spend less time on one subject, an Aspie might spend hours on end researching and practicing because of how much they enjoy that subject. Either way its hard to pinpoint what you can call intelligence.


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23 Aug 2009, 7:10 am

IMO, Yes...

Even though some Aspies have those failing grades, you could see that they are really smart... They are smart in their own different ways...


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