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30 May 2011, 1:08 pm

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Teenaged Aspies and Autie's seem to throw a lot of hate in the direction of NT's. I did so myself when I was younger like you guys. But get over it. Neurotypical people aren't all the same. Plenty of neurotypical people are quite similar to people on the spectrum. Most nerds are neurotypical, for instance. Me being a nerd, most of my friends are, likewise, nerds. And most of them are NT's. I don't care. They don't care and I've told many of them that I'm on the spectrum. Of course, it takes time to blend in, but you'll find that NT's aren't all that different. The only difference is that they have social skills that are more developed to begin with. They aren't all partying, petty miscreants who don't understand anything. Mmm'kay?

TL;DR: Quit complaining about not being understood or being surrounded by idiots as it solves nothing.



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30 May 2011, 2:13 pm

ShenLong wrote:
They aren't all partying, petty miscreants who don't understand anything. Mmm'kay?

TL;DR: Quit complaining about not being understood or being surrounded by idiots as it solves nothing.
I agree that there are plenty of NTs who are decent to be around, but when everyone is in high school, it may not seem that way. Most teenagers are partying miscreants and they would rather judge than accept aspies. I know it definitely seemed that way when I was in middle and high school because I was looking from an outsider's perspective. The good thing is some of them mature in adulthood.

You seem to have friends who accept you, but many of us aren't so lucky so it's hard for us not to complain about NTs when they have given us so many miserable experiences. It's all a matter of personal experience, which begets an individual's perspective and opinions.


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30 May 2011, 2:14 pm

I'd tend to argue that most geeks are neurotypicals and most nerds are aspies. You could argue that they are just people of above average intelligence, niche interests, have social awkwardness, and are generally outcasts, however, I'd counter argue thats pretty much an aspie for you.

In my experience the underlying difference between aspies and NTs isn't just that they are better with social situations than us. I don't respect their general attitude, goals, aspirations, and behaviorisms usually. As a result I don't respect them as much. While I won't state that all NTs are worse than us, a decent amount are in my own opinion.



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30 May 2011, 2:23 pm

The NTs who join this site are pretty decent people and they have a genuine interest in us. Let's make everybody feel welcome. :)


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30 May 2011, 2:29 pm

Indeed, I've learnt to take everybody as individuals and disregard the label.
To the OP though, it is not hate, at least initially. I'm guessing it's frustration about not being understood, not fitting in, which, when people think about it for long enough, turns into irrational hatred. I may be wrong, so please correct me, someone, if that is the case.


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30 May 2011, 3:49 pm

I actually always loved NTs. I studied a lot them since i was little. I was amazed with their behaviour. It was like that things that were difficult for me, for their were natural. Honestly I though they were genius. So i observed them
- Why they can make eye contact and talk or listen at the same time?
- Why they can read between lines?
- How it's possible they get bored from things i love?
- How can they keep control in situations i find umpleasant?
Maybe i don't hate them because my parents (both NT), especially my mom has always tried to understand and to help me. When i did something socially unappropriate she didn't screamed at me, she explained me why that thing was socially unappropriate. Maybe because i've meet some NT that appreciated me in the way i was and they respected me.

I take everybody as individual and disagree label too.


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30 May 2011, 4:02 pm

TenPencePiece wrote:
Indeed, I've learnt to take everybody as individuals and disregard the label.
To the OP though, it is not hate, at least initially. I'm guessing it's frustration about not being understood, not fitting in, which, when people think about it for long enough, turns into irrational hatred. I may be wrong, so please correct me, someone, if that is the case.


It's half'n'half, bro.



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30 May 2011, 5:25 pm

This is true. Not all NT's are "partying, petty miscreants who don't understand anything." But the majority of all NT teenagers definitely are. And of course complaining solves nothing. Isn't that common knowledge?


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30 May 2011, 7:10 pm

I know nobody with AS 'in real life', and the friends I do have are wonderful, genuine people and I wouldn't trade them for the world. :) So I do acknowledge everyone's different. But as a teen fresh out of high school just entering sixth form college, it can feel as though nobody 'gets' you and the social hierachy means everything, so it's very easy to feel like you ARE surrounded by idiots at this age!



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30 May 2011, 11:22 pm

Well I have friends. My whole group of friends are all pretty good. Funnily enough the only one I dislike is the Aspie. The rest of my friends are amazing. I admit several NT teens do just get drunk, party and be complete idiots but not all of them, several don't in fact. Just because people can't find the good ones isn't a reason for them to hate all of them.



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31 May 2011, 1:44 am

rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Most teenagers are partying miscreants and they would rather judge than accept aspies.


Don't know what kind of place you grew up in.



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31 May 2011, 9:21 am

You know, it is hard to make friends with NTs sometimes, but (maybe it's just me) Aspies are just as hard (if not harder) to get along with. If anything, at least they understand your problems and you can understand theirs, but there ARE neurotypical people out there who are understanding, patient and friendly. My ex boyfriend and neighbor are two examples of people that have put up with all my hell and are still my closest friends. Even when I go AWOL for months, people of the NT variety are still willing to give me a call and take me to the movies or whatever. Sure it's hard to find the right people, but they ARE out there. In other words, I agree with the OP.


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31 May 2011, 9:51 am

jmnixon95 wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Most teenagers are partying miscreants and they would rather judge than accept aspies.


Don't know what kind of place you grew up in.


sounds like chatham, or essex :lol:



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31 May 2011, 11:37 am

I agree ..
but I'd take you more seriously if you didn't type in 4chan-esque jargon.

don't get me wrong, sometimes I do. but its ridiculous when you're trying to make a point


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31 May 2011, 10:23 pm

Complaining about complaints, eh? I don't have a problem with that, actually. Sure, we aspie kids do a lot of complaining about NT kids... But we know we aren't talking about all of them. It just kind of comes out that way. But, some NT kids give us big problems. Some of us have been manipulated and bullied, and sometimes we don't know what to make of that. I know it hurt me. I don't know how many Aspie kids have had those problems, but it doesn't seem too uncommon.



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06 Oct 2011, 8:57 pm

I live in New York. I'm in the 8th grade. I'm in Catholic School. I'm in the same class all day with 12 to 15 year olds. And that describes every single one of them except for one person (that's not me), but my "possible friend" Sage.

Also, does anyone here know when NTs consider an acquaintance a friend? Because I automatically assume, about after a couple conversations, an acquaintance is automatically your friend... Guess I was wrong. :P