My problem with "Fakers"

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As an aspie, I have some trouble socializing, but I'm not really that bad at it. But sometimes, I don't because I actively avoid it. and the reason for that is a depressingly common type of NT personality I call "the Faker"

a faker is someone who just doesn't seem genuine as a personality. But that usually comes from an attitude of rediculous boasting and wildly rediculous claims. But I'm starting to ramble.

I do have one example: being a devoted bibleophile, It REALLY PISSES ME OFF when someone will say "oh I read that book, its that one where that guy does the thing with the tool and stuff" or some other BS

its kind of hard to explain precisley what a faker is. The theory I have is that the faker is the (unknowingly) natural social predator of the aspie. A faker is someone who will assert something as fact that both he and everyone else around him knows is not true in the slightest.

This type of attitude is not exactly negative, for I don't really believe fakers understand that what they are doing is bullying, although most tend to not like aspies because we constantly call them out on stuff they say.

Its attitudes like this that have poisoned my social life. When I heard in 7 grade that people were already dating, I didn't believe it. I knew a really nice girl at my middle school, and I still talk with some people who went on to my district high school (I ended up going somewhere else to escape the fakers) and they told me that said girl has had "like 6 abortions". I was shocked. Normally I would disreguard such a rediculous claim, but the person who told me was a good friend, who I can usually trust, and she didn't say it like she was trying to smear the girl. I had no idea what to think. people tell me stuff like that and I genuinely don't know if they're telling the truth or not.

It really is a confusing issue; looking at what I have written, I don't really think it accurately conveys the message I'm trying to get across. But I think most of you already know what Im trying to get at (sorry if that seems presumtuous)

Ack, I know EXACTLY what you mean.

I can't tell who is faking. Even if they have the wrong facts, they could just be mistaking or repeating them. I also know people have false memories so they may misremember something that happened in a movie or book so therefore they get a scene wrong or the names of the characters mixed up or not remember the facts they heard from someone about stuff, especially about other people.

I can believe people in middle school are dating because it happened in my own school and my own brother had a girlfriend when he was in the 8th grade.

I can remember kids making up stories to me and I bet they got a kick out of me believing them. Now just imagine me going around repeating those stories, then I would have looked like a liar.

I don't know if my personality looks genuine or not. Body language always scares me when people rely on it. I had no idea saying something like "Oh I read that book, it's that one where the guy bla bla bla" was fake. I guess I better not talk like that anymore.

Holy crap, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. People always do that to me

Sociopaths are more fake than anybody, and they often appear NT. They seem relatively normal because they don't say what they're really thinking most of the time.

1: fakers: people who assert something untrue as fact as a joke. For those who pick up on the joke, somehow it is funny. In my experience, most fakers I know make most of thier "jokes" revolve around themselves

ex: F(aker): I can beat that (long jump) record! me: dude, it was set by an olympic athlete. you dont have a chance. (faker jumps about 2 feet) F: See I beat the record! me No you didn't the record is" F: LALALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY AWESOMENESS!! !

Because of this, I used to think that faker(ism) was narcicistic. (I would tell them that, and they would say it was a fancy word for awesome) I now realize that they don't really mean anything by it.

League girl, What I meant was that it annoys me when I'm reading a great book that I enjoy immensly and some idiot walks up to me and tells me he read the book when he knows ablsolutely nothing about it. I will make this assumption if the one saying that he has read the book is a repeat offender for this crime, but otherwise I'll just ask something like "who is the main character" to detemine wheather or not to be pissed at them. If they answer correctly, or better yet, display knowledge of the book before I ask the question, then he is serious and we can actually talk about the book.

I'm not all that good with body language either. What meant is that fakers don't always tell made up things that are even remotely believable, even to aspies. I once heard a guy claim he had a black hole in his backyard in science class. What I mean by fake is a person you can talk to, but at the same time know for a fact that your not actually talking to the person, but talking to an act they they put on.

That story about rumors wasn't really connected to the "faker phenominon" Ever since middle school I have lost the ability to dicern truth from rumor on the social scene. I would sometimes here rumors that a girl was a skank or something, and I just couldn't believe it, because I would know the girl in question and she was always nice and polite to me.

So that's what it's called..

From my experience, those people tend to be the obnoxious ones that constantly try to, "wake," me from hyperfocus for trivial things like the Social Lies of, "How's it going?" As a result, all the progress I make in being more open and connected to people FALLS APART after a few school days every year (out of four high school years and one middle school year because I was not out-schooled before then).

I know what you mean
Back in middle school, one of my friends (I'm not sure if it should be that or "friends", you know?) walked into lunch with her leg all wrapped up in a bandage. I was like "Oh my god! What happened?!" And she said something like "I was attacked by a coyote!" So naturally I freaked out and said "OH HOT TAMALES! Are you alright?! Do you have rabies?!" My table of friends (I had four friends, but I think I was only sitting with the girl and my best friend at the time) burst out laughing, and then my best friend explained that the girl only had poison ivy..
Then not too long after that, I was at my best friend's house looking through our middle school year book and I was like "Hey, what's Penny's (the girl who convinced me she had been bitten by a coyote) last name?" He replied "Nickel." So I spent ten minutes trying to find it, then I was like "Where is it? I can't find it!" Then he laughed and was like "Are you serious? I was joking, get it? Penny Nickel?" It took me another five minutes to connect the dots.
Who knew 12 year olds were so clever?

One time, somebody half-tricked me into thinking watermelon grew on your insides because the seeds would be in your stomach. I just kept laughing and thinking, "Why would so and so....?" to their answers and responses, but due to my "whatever" state, I wasn't really thinking about it, so I wasn't really sure whether or not I believed them. In retrospect, I was going along with it because I was laughing too hard. Then they told me they were joking and they once tricked a girl into believing it for five days.

Peope DO date in middle school, I dated 5 people during the time of 6th to 8th grade, though many have dated more people than me. I also knew many girls in middle school who DID have abortions. Of coure you shouldn't go around telling people if it's just a rumor. Here are things kids did when I was in Middle school (that they still do in High School):
1. date
2. have sex
3. do drugs
4. skip class
5. be part of gangs
6. have abortions
7. attempt suicide
8. drink

of course this doesnt mean EVERYONE does this, though MOST people including me dated. I never did all the other ones...well except skipping class but that was because it was a class that didn't really count on whether I would fail or not.