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21 Dec 2006, 1:51 pm

really want to talk to girls i just cant talk to them i cant remember the last time i spoke to a girl i would really love to hear from some girls as i crave female attention i would really love to chat so please reply i would love to chat to females over the age of 14 thanks for your time :)



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21 Dec 2006, 4:52 pm

Woah!! Didn't your teachers teach you punctuation? Capitalization? Grammar? That's way too much for me to take in without those basic communication tools.


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21 Dec 2006, 6:59 pm

PopeJaimie wrote:
Woah!! Didn't your teachers teach you punctuation? Capitalization? Grammar? That's way too much for me to take in without those basic communication tools.


English teachers today more and more neglect to teach the fine points of our language's grammar. I have gone through three years of high school English and have had teachers who assume we were taught the grammar in previous years. Only my tenth grade English teacher had the ambition to stop the literary studies and explain to us when to use "who" and when to use "whom".

I frequent another forum where there's a frequent member who does not use capitalization nor punctuation. The interestng thing is that one time, another regular member said she got on his nerves because she didn't use proper grammar. I remember that a majority of the forum got angry at him for pointing out that this member didn't use proper grammar - they thought her a serious asset to the forum.

So you can't always judge a book by its cover, as much as we want to...

As for COMET's original reply, it sounds a bit perverted however. "I want to talk to girls" - it's very direct and straightforward. Why girls and not guys?

(I have heard that it is human nature to crave female attention - I was in a conversation a couple days ago where that idea popped up - but nonetheless...)

Comet: Why don't you talk to girls much in real life? Are they put off by you or are you shy to talk to them? Or is it something else?

-aaron



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21 Dec 2006, 7:28 pm

aleclair wrote:
PopeJaimie wrote:
Woah!! Didn't your teachers teach you punctuation? Capitalization? Grammar? That's way too much for me to take in without those basic communication tools.


English teachers today more and more neglect to teach the fine points of our language's grammar. I have gone through three years of high school English and have had teachers who assume we were taught the grammar in previous years. Only my tenth grade English teacher had the ambition to stop the literary studies and explain to us when to use "who" and when to use "whom".

I frequent another forum where there's a frequent member who does not use capitalization nor punctuation. The interestng thing is that one time, another regular member said she got on his nerves because she didn't use proper grammar. I remember that a majority of the forum got angry at him for pointing out that this member didn't use proper grammar - they thought her a serious asset to the forum.

So you can't always judge a book by its cover, as much as we want to...

As for COMET's original reply, it sounds a bit perverted however. "I want to talk to girls" - it's very direct and straightforward. Why girls and not guys?

(I have heard that it is human nature to crave female attention - I was in a conversation a couple days ago where that idea popped up - but nonetheless...)

Comet: Why don't you talk to girls much in real life? Are they put off by you or are you shy to talk to them? Or is it something else?

-aaron


While it's certainly true that educational standards are not nearly as high as they need to be (and DON'T think that's an accident, either), I have a hard time believing that they would let someone out of the 4th grade with this level of writing skill. I'm not saying he needs to have impeccable grammar and spelling, but he should at least be able to communicate his thoughts effectively.


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21 Dec 2006, 9:46 pm

PopeJaimie wrote:
aleclair wrote:
PopeJaimie wrote:
Woah!! Didn't your teachers teach you punctuation? Capitalization? Grammar? That's way too much for me to take in without those basic communication tools.


English teachers today more and more neglect to teach the fine points of our language's grammar. I have gone through three years of high school English and have had teachers who assume we were taught the grammar in previous years. Only my tenth grade English teacher had the ambition to stop the literary studies and explain to us when to use "who" and when to use "whom".

I frequent another forum where there's a frequent member who does not use capitalization nor punctuation. The interestng thing is that one time, another regular member said she got on his nerves because she didn't use proper grammar. I remember that a majority of the forum got angry at him for pointing out that this member didn't use proper grammar - they thought her a serious asset to the forum.

So you can't always judge a book by its cover, as much as we want to...

As for COMET's original reply, it sounds a bit perverted however. "I want to talk to girls" - it's very direct and straightforward. Why girls and not guys?

(I have heard that it is human nature to crave female attention - I was in a conversation a couple days ago where that idea popped up - but nonetheless...)

Comet: Why don't you talk to girls much in real life? Are they put off by you or are you shy to talk to them? Or is it something else?

-aaron


While it's certainly true that educational standards are not nearly as high as they need to be (and DON'T think that's an accident, either), I have a hard time believing that they would let someone out of the 4th grade with this level of writing skill. I'm not saying he needs to have impeccable grammar and spelling, but he should at least be able to communicate his thoughts effectively.


Can you guys just stop making bad comments about people? Why should grammar even matter on here? It's not like he's writing a formal essay or a letter, he's just typing something in a forum on the internet. Also it is not perverted to say 'I want to talk to girls.'. It is normal to crave attention from the opposite gender and if maybe someone just goes up to him, becomes friendly to him and tell him what he's doing wrong and why he's not attracting females then he wouldn't have a lot of craving for female attention.



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23 Dec 2006, 6:36 pm

Hey i know his grammar may be a lil bad, but its kinda harsh to just ignore his request to make freinds and instead confront him with this grammar nazi-ism =/

COMET, im 16, im not female, but i would still enjoy talking with you, my msn is in my profile :)


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23 Dec 2006, 7:04 pm

Nice posts greyhelium & Mariah; but greyheium: didn't you know that 'freinds' is spelt 'friends'.
Weren't you ever taught 'i' before 'e' ?
What's the world coming to?

And can somebody teach me how to use my commas, semi-colons and colons; i'm sure they're incorrect.

I find COMET's honesty refreshing.
As for communicating his thoughts effectively, i thought he did rather well.
Joyce, Kelman, Beckett and others also do quite well without using punctuation in the fashion that most have been taught.

And PopeJaimie: don't you find the use of double exclamation marks rather dramatic. Whoever taught you this method of punctuation ! !?
Bet you find life rather hectic ! !



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23 Dec 2006, 8:24 pm

Well, gee, sorry everyone for not loving everything about everybody! I know, I know, I'm going to burn in hell forever. C'est la vie.


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23 Dec 2006, 9:07 pm

PopeJaimie wrote:
.. everything about everybody!


eh??

It's not the matter of 'everything about everybody', nor a matter of loving.
Just your criticism of punctuation which is at issue.

When you are lacking yourself, it's probably best not to fault others.



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28 Dec 2006, 8:52 pm

Kosmonaut wrote:
Nice posts greyhelium & Mariah; but greyheium: didn't you know that 'freinds' is spelt 'friends'.
Weren't you ever taught 'i' before 'e' ?
What's the world coming to?

And can somebody teach me how to use my commas, semi-colons and colons; i'm sure they're incorrect.

I find COMET's honesty refreshing.
As for communicating his thoughts effectively, i thought he did rather well.
Joyce, Kelman, Beckett and others also do quite well without using punctuation in the fashion that most have been taught.

And PopeJaimie: don't you find the use of double exclamation marks rather dramatic. Whoever taught you this method of punctuation ! !?
Bet you find life rather hectic ! !


To paraphrase that great author, Terry Pratchett: "Multiple exclamation marks are the sign of an unhinged mind." Not that I'm insinuating anything, mind.

Commas are used between items in lists, to set off apposatives (apposatives are nouns or noun phrases that modify nouns) and to set off sentence modifiers. I can't think of any other uses off the top of my head.

Semi-colons are used between independant clauses without a conjunction (that is, if you could make them two sentences, you can join them by a semi-colon; hence, I use one to join these two clauses) and between items in a list if there are already many commas involved, for instance place names ("Nome, Alaska; Denver, Colorado; and New York, New York are all cities that have been mentioned in literature" is an example of such usage).

Colons are generally used at the beginnings of lists and after names of people being addressed. I can't think of another use for them at the moment, although I'm sure someone will come along and enlighten me in a moment. A good resource for learning proper grammar and punctuation is the excellent Eats, Shoots, and Leaves by Lynne Truss, which is simultaneously witty and informative.

Personally, I find it abhorrent when a poster cannot take the time to at least try to correctly punctuate, if not spell, their* posts. Although standards of teaching English are, as aleclair mentioned, horribly poor--I also have had a grand total of two teachers in my entire learning career that bothered to teach us any grammar at all--it is not difficult to learn when to capitalise words and when to insert periods. Honestly, I learned almost all of my practical grammar in Latin class, not English, which is also where I have learned the exact meaning of "whence" and "whither," among other practical tidbits of information for writing properly. These days, teachers focus so much on literary analysis that few bother to teach the basics, even in elementary school!

*Should anyone give me flak on my choice of the third plural pronoun in this case, I should mention that the preference for the third plural pronoun in cases of gender uncertainty in the third person was the preferred form up until Hellenophilic self-professed "guardians of the English language" took it upon themselves to standardise English, hence the "no splitting infinitives" rule, among others.

Getting back to the subject at hand, I'm female. Is there any particular reason you should like to talk to me?


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28 Dec 2006, 8:56 pm

Double post. My apologies.


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29 Dec 2006, 2:16 pm

Mariah918 wrote:
PopeJaimie wrote:
aleclair wrote:
PopeJaimie wrote:
Woah!! Didn't your teachers teach you punctuation? Capitalization? Grammar? That's way too much for me to take in without those basic communication tools.


English teachers today more and more neglect to teach the fine points of our language's grammar. I have gone through three years of high school English and have had teachers who assume we were taught the grammar in previous years. Only my tenth grade English teacher had the ambition to stop the literary studies and explain to us when to use "who" and when to use "whom".

I frequent another forum where there's a frequent member who does not use capitalization nor punctuation. The interestng thing is that one time, another regular member said she got on his nerves because she didn't use proper grammar. I remember that a majority of the forum got angry at him for pointing out that this member didn't use proper grammar - they thought her a serious asset to the forum.

So you can't always judge a book by its cover, as much as we want to...

As for COMET's original reply, it sounds a bit perverted however. "I want to talk to girls" - it's very direct and straightforward. Why girls and not guys?

(I have heard that it is human nature to crave female attention - I was in a conversation a couple days ago where that idea popped up - but nonetheless...)

Comet: Why don't you talk to girls much in real life? Are they put off by you or are you shy to talk to them? Or is it something else?

-aaron


While it's certainly true that educational standards are not nearly as high as they need to be (and DON'T think that's an accident, either), I have a hard time believing that they would let someone out of the 4th grade with this level of writing skill. I'm not saying he needs to have impeccable grammar and spelling, but he should at least be able to communicate his thoughts effectively.


Can you guys just stop making bad comments about people? Why should grammar even matter on here? It's not like he's writing a formal essay or a letter, he's just typing something in a forum on the internet. Also it is not perverted to say 'I want to talk to girls.'. It is normal to crave attention from the opposite gender and if maybe someone just goes up to him, becomes friendly to him and tell him what he's doing wrong and why he's not attracting females then he wouldn't have a lot of craving for female attention.


Exactly. Who gives a s**t about someone's bad grammar?

Just like COMET, I would like to learn how to talk to girls but since my older sister is an egomaniac & my mom is so Catholic, both would drag me to church & get me exorcised than allow me to talk to girls. I hate being lonely.



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06 Jan 2007, 8:35 pm

I'm gonna haveta whip out my genderswitch ray and go to COMET's house. We could... I dunno, think of something! It'd be a party, and I'd invite a bunch of people. Though, in respect of COMET, we'd probably hold it somewhere that wasn't his house. It's not fair to throw a party for a friend and expect him to host it.

And for any of you who think my desire to have (and use) a genderswitch ray is weird, you know what? I think you're weird. So there.



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06 Jan 2007, 9:05 pm

SEMI COLON
SEMI COLON
SEMI COLON
COLON
FULLSTOP!@! !!1!!1oneoenoen11

I'm over 14, but I don't really talk, so you'd probably get bored with me. :?