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Mortemire
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29 Dec 2015, 5:01 am

Hey, alot of things annoy me, and sometimes it can be as simple as how you choose to reply to me on the computer, in text format.

Especially if you're my friend, I mean, if I say a joke, i.e (cue generic worldwide joke)

'why did tigger look down the toilet?'
'to look for pooh'

Notice how I've typed that, without any regard for capitalization or the use of commas or full-stops, with this 'tone' I hope to bring forth one of innocence and carelessness, it's there to make you feel easy, if I can't be asked to use punctuation, then I hope for you to relax when responding. So I expect something along the lines of,

'rly'

See, that's okay, that's light-hearted, you'd be okay with that, well, I would be okay with that. The lack of detail means you really didn't mind whether or not your point was taken, you made no effort to doll up the format of your response, because our relationship is informal, thus there is no need.
Instead, I find myself deeply offended when I get hit with the,

'Really..?'

Why exactly would I be so upset? Because in my mind, if you have a deep connection with someone, you don't have to censor yourself, be as lazy as you want if the other person loves you for it. When you hit me with something like, 'Really..?' the capitalization of the R suggests that embarrassed you more then it should, because you felt the need to go that extra mile and press down the shift key while you press the 'R', and the ellipsis is yet another unnecessary detail, it tells me how dryly you took my joke, as if it offended you to the point where you respond with a reply that sounds as if the scenario is tedious. The question mark would be okay, if it weren't for it being directly and purposely after the ellipsis, suggesting that you had to trail over those circles to stab a sigh of a question mark onto the end.

I don't know, it makes me stressed, it feels like there is aggression behind the unwelcome presence of grammar, when it's supposed to steer clear of a relaxed, care-free environment that I normally have with my friends.



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05 Jan 2016, 10:11 pm

I understand that. Grammar is often used as an indication of tone in places where tone cannot actually be heard, so I see how something like that would bother you. That happens to me too, though sometimes I cannot always tell what a person means even when I try to interprate their typing style. Some people always type formally though. Makes it hard to tell :/ :/


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06 Jan 2016, 12:19 am

I wholeheartedly disagree. Whenever I see things like "rly," I feel like a person doesn't care enough about me to use correct grammar; they're not even trying. I admire people who use correct grammar when sending text messages; I find them much easier to talk to, and I can take them more seriously. It's very depressing how laziness has become expected and people have become wary of people who actually use correct grammar when sending texts. I don't even think about it; it would actually take more effort for me to type something like "rly" because I'd have to figure out a reason to do that. Sometimes I feel awkward because my text-message grammar is so much better than other people's (one guy recently texted me and said my semicolons make him anxious), but not using proper grammar just goes against everything I believe in.



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06 Jan 2016, 10:51 am

There used to be a cigarette commercial which went:

"What do you want: Good Grammar, or Good Taste?"



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06 Jan 2016, 11:44 am

This would be a good place to say that I am very unhappy with my current ranking, as "Sea Gull" should be one word.



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06 Jan 2016, 12:45 pm

I find correct spelling and punctuation much more aesthetically pleasing than any “simplification” I could make, and I’m used enough to typing that the effort to press a few extra keys is negligible compared with stopping to think how exactly I’m going to butcher my message, making it harder to understand any nuances I want to convey, just in case someone is offended because I like precision and a consistent standard which has been versatile enough for centuries to express as much informality as you want in dialogues within novels, or in poetry, for example.

I can accept that others disagree with me in this regard, but, if someone is offended by my preferences, I don’t really want to chat with them.


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13 Feb 2016, 9:16 am

Spiderpig wrote:
I find correct spelling and punctuation much more aesthetically pleasing than any “simplification” I could make, and I’m used enough to typing that the effort to press a few extra keys is negligible compared with stopping to think how exactly I’m going to butcher my message, making it harder to understand any nuances I want to convey, just in case someone is offended because I like precision and a consistent standard which has been versatile enough for centuries to express as much informality as you want in dialogues within novels, or in poetry, for example.

I can accept that others disagree with me in this regard, but, if someone is offended by my preferences, I don’t really want to chat with them.


The words you chose in this response are beautiful.
I just like to see what other people think, really! c:



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13 Feb 2016, 9:17 am

Grammar Geek wrote:
I wholeheartedly disagree. Whenever I see things like "rly," I feel like a person doesn't care enough about me to use correct grammar; they're not even trying. I admire people who use correct grammar when sending text messages; I find them much easier to talk to, and I can take them more seriously. It's very depressing how laziness has become expected and people have become wary of people who actually use correct grammar when sending texts. I don't even think about it; it would actually take more effort for me to type something like "rly" because I'd have to figure out a reason to do that. Sometimes I feel awkward because my text-message grammar is so much better than other people's (one guy recently texted me and said my semicolons make him anxious), but not using proper grammar just goes against everything I believe in.


Oh, okay, it's fine to disagree haha. Thanks for responding. x'D It's awesome to see what everyone else thinks. I get what you mean however.



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13 Feb 2016, 10:56 am

I don't really care if someone uses good grammar or not.



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13 Feb 2016, 12:03 pm

Grammar Geek wrote:
I wholeheartedly disagree. Whenever I see things like "rly," I feel like a person doesn't care enough about me to use correct grammar; they're not even trying. I admire people who use correct grammar when sending text messages; I find them much easier to talk to, and I can take them more seriously. It's very depressing how laziness has become expected and people have become wary of people who actually use correct grammar when sending texts. I don't even think about it; it would actually take more effort for me to type something like "rly" because I'd have to figure out a reason to do that. Sometimes I feel awkward because my text-message grammar is so much better than other people's (one guy recently texted me and said my semicolons make him anxious), but not using proper grammar just goes against everything I believe in.


I'm a little more relaxed than this, but only a little. I don't really judge others grammar when texting or typing, but I make sure mine is very close to proper (though I do get lazy at times). I just hate the way it looks otherwise because I know if I am not using grammar properly, it means I'm less interested and I don't want to send that message. I usually don't assume someone's motive is the same.



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13 Feb 2016, 12:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
There used to be a cigarette commercial which went:

"What do you want: Good Grammar, or Good Taste?"



That was in response to the responses to:

"Winston takes good, like a cigarette should."