What is your least favourite high school stereotype?
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Ghetto-pimp-gangasta-wannabes annoy the living s**t out of me. (They were half the kids at my high school.) They cut class, then whine about failing their classes, and when they ARE in class they disrupt it constantly, never learning how to be quiet, and all the while disrespecting the hell out of each other. (I've never heard them be referred to as "wiggas" though.)
Preps are awful too because they act like such goodie goodies when a lot of them are really immoral. Ewww, bright colors. Ewww, uber-right-wing, uber-Christian politics. Ewww, cringiness at swear words. I find nothing to relate to in them. These people were the other half of my high school, except with mostly leftist politics.
I can't stand rednecks either--the racist and super right wing kinds especially.
Emo's are pretty annoying, too...a lot of 'em are just kinda dumb. Especially emo boys. They wear chick pants 3 sizes too small then complain about their dicks hurting because they have no room down there. WTF? Then again, the core emo philosophy seems to be blind emotion over rationality. (Have any of them heard of Rousseau?) I get the impression that they're preps who tried to go gothic but didn't quite get it right so they decided to give it a new name.
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I thought you said, and I quote
Will you make up your mind already? You seem to post incessantly on topics dealing with "labels and stereotypes", yet you complain that you dislike them. I wouldn't mind if you said flat-out "I am obsessed with adolescent subcultures" or something similar, yet you deny that and claim to "hate labels"--yet you don't seem to want to talk about anything else half of the time. Make up your mind, please.
I hate people who are inconsistant. Also: People who obsess over their pseudo-non-conformity. Well, to be more accurate, I find amusement in needling them or mocking them. *shrugs* Non-conformists never need to assert their non-conformity. Groups as in the traditional high school labels--preps, etc.--aren't something I actually have any experience with, as I'm not prone to classifying what people I know by that title. It's not that I think labels are wrong or stupid--indeed, humanity automatically classifies everything by one label or another; it's a fairly valuable survival trait--but I've never actually figured out who gets labeled what, and I just don't think in those terms.
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Will you make up your mind already? You seem to post incessantly on topics dealing with "labels and stereotypes", yet you complain that you dislike them. I wouldn't mind if you said flat-out "I am obsessed with adolescent subcultures" or something similar, yet you deny that and claim to "hate labels"--yet you don't seem to want to talk about anything else half of the time. Make up your mind, please.
This isn't inconsistant. One can be obsessed with something and still highly critical of it. I'm rather obsessed with adolescent subcultures myself. I won't speak for Space, but here's my deal: I think a lot of people adopt stereotypes and label themselves to conform, and oftentimes they're untrue to themselves in the process. This is something I very much dislike, but it's something I put a lot of thought into, and discuss a lot in conversations. That said, I do think that it's important to find idenfitification in something, but better if it's multiple things. I consider myself both a geek and a goth, though there are many goth trends I dislike and many geek trends I dislike. I won't adopt those trends just to fit in, but I still consider myself those things because of cultural identity. It's only stereotyping yourself when you become the stereotype and forget your individuality. It's a fine line....
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Will you make up your mind already? You seem to post incessantly on topics dealing with "labels and stereotypes", yet you complain that you dislike them. I wouldn't mind if you said flat-out "I am obsessed with adolescent subcultures" or something similar, yet you deny that and claim to "hate labels"--yet you don't seem to want to talk about anything else half of the time. Make up your mind, please.
This isn't inconsistant. One can be obsessed with something and still highly critical of it. I'm rather obsessed with adolescent subcultures myself. I won't speak for Space, but here's my deal: I think a lot of people adopt stereotypes and label themselves to conform, and oftentimes they're untrue to themselves in the process. This is something I very much dislike, but it's something I put a lot of thought into, and discuss a lot in conversations. That said, I do think that it's important to find idenfitification in something, but better if it's multiple things. I consider myself both a geek and a goth, though there are many goth trends I dislike and many geek trends I dislike. I won't adopt those trends just to fit in, but I still consider myself those things because of cultural identity. It's only stereotyping yourself when you become the stereotype and forget your individuality. It's a fine line....
I can understand being fascinated with something in the negative--heck, I often gravitate towards topics that infuriate me that I'm obsessed with more strongly than those that don't infuriate me on message boards. What is bothering me is SpaceCase's vacillating attitude towards the topic; s/he seems alternatingly critical of such subculture labeling and obsessed with knowing what we all are or whether we conform to other characteristics of certain subcultures or stereotypes of these subcultures, which doesn't indicate to me that s/he is totally certain of hir own preferences--though s/he insists on posting on the subject constantly. I've asked hir to clarify on another board and met with no response, incidentally. It's not that I have a problem with the topic of teenage subculture and labels, but I would prefer to discuss other things--the same rehashed subjects over and over get old.
I do agree that it's important to find something to identify with, but I don't see why the thing to identify with has to be a teen stereotype or subculture. I tend to identify myself through my interests--lover of languages, literature, canids, etc.--and through aspects of my personality that I cherish rather than to aspects of any sort of pre-existing type arbitrarily set down by my peers. *shrugs* Whatever works, I suppose! In any case, there's my two cents.
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Will you make up your mind already? You seem to post incessantly on topics dealing with "labels and stereotypes", yet you complain that you dislike them. I wouldn't mind if you said flat-out "I am obsessed with adolescent subcultures" or something similar, yet you deny that and claim to "hate labels"--yet you don't seem to want to talk about anything else half of the time. Make up your mind, please.
I hate people who are inconsistant. Also: People who obsess over their pseudo-non-conformity. Well, to be more accurate, I find amusement in needling them or mocking them. *shrugs* Non-conformists never need to assert their non-conformity. Groups as in the traditional high school labels--preps, etc.--aren't something I actually have any experience with, as I'm not prone to classifying what people I know by that title. It's not that I think labels are wrong or stupid--indeed, humanity automatically classifies everything by one label or another; it's a fairly valuable survival trait--but I've never actually figured out who gets labeled what, and I just don't think in those terms.
Here, here. Exactly my own point.
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White rapper wannabes annoy the s**t out of me.
One time, I was in the hallway & one guy came up to me and started rapping his ass off. I do not think in those terms but at my HS we love to call each other names since it is part of our culture.
Conservatives come in second. They think they are so high & mighty with their jabber mouths that I seriously want to brainwash one.
i don't really mind the 'gangsta, gangstas' since they're pretty much everywhere and if you can't stand them you pretty much cross out a whole lot of potential friends..
but anyway - i really can't stand stupid people and i can't stand 'sheep': people who just follow the initiator/leader; people who just go with the group for fear of being alienated.
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The way you say that borders on conformism itself. I'm at a loss for logic as of the moment, so good luck trying to get me to explain.
Although not a conventional high school stereotype, I've always hated people who complain about having a lack of a social life for the purpose of attention grabbing.
Saying you don't have a social life when you don't is one thing. But saying you don't when you do is to me an atrocity.
Actually, I don't know why people do it.
But it could possibly be to gain attention. My high school contains a disproportionate number of attention grabbers - another stereotype I don't like.
(maybe stereotype's not the word there - as attention grabbers are a harsh reality)
Like the girl who, upon knowing that our chemistry teacher had an infant child, gave the teacher a hardback copy of "Where the Wild Things Are". Normally in class she is loud, rude, annoying, so on. And although she says a LOT in class, who said quality is quantity - one time, she asked our teacher where MILK came from...
That's the pitfall of anyone's having a comfortable UMC lifestyle, I think...
The way you say that borders on conformism itself. I'm at a loss for logic as of the moment, so good luck trying to get me to explain.
Although not a conventional high school stereotype, I've always hated people who complain about having a lack of a social life for the purpose of attention grabbing.
Saying you don't have a social life when you don't is one thing. But saying you don't when you do is to me an atrocity.
Actually, I don't know why people do it.
But it could possibly be to gain attention. My high school contains a disproportionate number of attention grabbers - another stereotype I don't like.
(maybe stereotype's not the word there - as attention grabbers are a harsh reality)
Like the girl who, upon knowing that our chemistry teacher had an infant child, gave the teacher a hardback copy of "Where the Wild Things Are". Normally in class she is loud, rude, annoying, so on. And although she says a LOT in class, who said quality is quantity - one time, she asked our teacher where MILK came from...
That's the pitfall of anyone's having a comfortable UMC lifestyle, I think...
I'm NOT trying to get attention!! !! ! i'm just saying that i hate all NT's my age.
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