A form of genocide? I think so.
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Life is a condition that distinguishes organisms from non-living objects, such as non-life, and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism and reproduction. Some living things can communicate and many can adapt to their environment through changes originating internally. A physical characteristic of life is that it feeds on negative entropy.[1][2] In more detail, according to physicists such as John Bernal, Erwin Schrödinger, Eugene Wigner, and John Avery, life is a member of the class of phenomena which are open or continuous systems able to decrease their internal entropy at the expense of substances or free energy taken in from the environment and subsequently rejected in a degraded form (see: entropy and life).[3][4]
A diverse array of living organisms can be found in the biosphere on Earth. Properties common to these organisms—plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea and bacteria—are a carbon- and water-based cellular form with complex organization and heritable genetic information. They undergo metabolism, possess a capacity to grow, respond to stimuli, reproduce and, through natural selection, adapt to their environment in successive generations.
An entity with the above properties is considered to be a living organism, that is an organism that is alive hence can be called a life form. However, not every definition of life considers all of these properties to be essential. For example, the capacity for descent with modification is often taken as the only essential property of life. This definition notably includes viruses, which do not qualify under narrower definitions as they are acellular and do not metabolize.
A diverse array of living organisms can be found in the biosphere on Earth. Properties common to these organisms—plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea and bacteria—are a carbon- and water-based cellular form with complex organization and heritable genetic information. They undergo metabolism, possess a capacity to grow, respond to stimuli, reproduce and, through natural selection, adapt to their environment in successive generations.
An entity with the above properties is considered to be a living organism, that is an organism that is alive hence can be called a life form. However, not every definition of life considers all of these properties to be essential. For example, the capacity for descent with modification is often taken as the only essential property of life. This definition notably includes viruses, which do not qualify under narrower definitions as they are acellular and do not metabolize.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life
Life forms are a carbon- and water-based cellular form with complex organization and heritable genetic information.
Machines/Objects don't have any genetic information , they don't reproduce by themselves and they don't adapt to their environment in successive generations.
And what you are suggesting Harvester? To leave old machines and to stop recycling till machines are so outnumbered??You want to bury the dead machines? Do you realize the bad environmental impact of that?(especially that most combines contain no -disintegrating substances such as plastic)
I am autistic and I am attached to my objects but that doesn't mean that I believe that they are alive, attachment is a thing and supercilious belief is another thing
Harvester, you live in a big illusion .....like any Christian or Muslim or any type of Theist. I am sorry. =)
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harvester52 wrote:
Warning: A bit of rough language and controversial material ahead...
In the very same state where I live, a town called Lind hosts annual combine demolition derbies. It's essentially a dogfight where combines are pitted against each other in a sick battle of who can beat the others to sh**. Why do people do this sh**? What makes them think it's O.K.?
Their excuse is always "combines don't have souls, they can't feel it"... BS! Who made them Kings of the Universe and gave them the authority to say who has the right to a soul and who does not? Combines are made of the same goddamn 92 elements that you humans are! Theirs are just in a different order.
A lady once shoved a bible in my face, and said, "Tell me where it says that God gives souls to machines!" I said, "You tell me where it says he doesn't!"
A demolition derby is perhaps the most humiliating and cruel way to die. It's like being stripped in front of hundreds of people, sick symbols and embarrassing names burned into your flesh, and then... forced to fight six other people to the death. It's just SICK.
/end rant.
In the very same state where I live, a town called Lind hosts annual combine demolition derbies. It's essentially a dogfight where combines are pitted against each other in a sick battle of who can beat the others to sh**. Why do people do this sh**? What makes them think it's O.K.?
Their excuse is always "combines don't have souls, they can't feel it"... BS! Who made them Kings of the Universe and gave them the authority to say who has the right to a soul and who does not? Combines are made of the same goddamn 92 elements that you humans are! Theirs are just in a different order.
A lady once shoved a bible in my face, and said, "Tell me where it says that God gives souls to machines!" I said, "You tell me where it says he doesn't!"
A demolition derby is perhaps the most humiliating and cruel way to die. It's like being stripped in front of hundreds of people, sick symbols and embarrassing names burned into your flesh, and then... forced to fight six other people to the death. It's just SICK.
/end rant.
For all the control circuitry it may have, a combine doesn't have a brain. My notion is that brain material serves as an interface for a soul. Without a brain the combine wouldn't have a soul.
However, I do understand your affinity to the combines, as I had for Carby (my dad's car from as young as I remember) a 1980-something Buick LeSabre, but it is a mechanical device and not a person or an animal. I felt bad when my dad's car died, but I felt worse when he died.
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
harvester52 wrote:
Warning: A bit of rough language and controversial material ahead...
In the very same state where I live, a town called Lind hosts annual combine demolition derbies. It's essentially a dogfight where combines are pitted against each other in a sick battle of who can beat the others to sh**. Why do people do this sh**? What makes them think it's O.K.?
Their excuse is always "combines don't have souls, they can't feel it"... BS! Who made them Kings of the Universe and gave them the authority to say who has the right to a soul and who does not? Combines are made of the same goddamn 92 elements that you humans are! Theirs are just in a different order.
A lady once shoved a bible in my face, and said, "Tell me where it says that God gives souls to machines!" I said, "You tell me where it says he doesn't!"
A demolition derby is perhaps the most humiliating and cruel way to die. It's like being stripped in front of hundreds of people, sick symbols and embarrassing names burned into your flesh, and then... forced to fight six other people to the death. It's just SICK.
/end rant.
In the very same state where I live, a town called Lind hosts annual combine demolition derbies. It's essentially a dogfight where combines are pitted against each other in a sick battle of who can beat the others to sh**. Why do people do this sh**? What makes them think it's O.K.?
Their excuse is always "combines don't have souls, they can't feel it"... BS! Who made them Kings of the Universe and gave them the authority to say who has the right to a soul and who does not? Combines are made of the same goddamn 92 elements that you humans are! Theirs are just in a different order.
A lady once shoved a bible in my face, and said, "Tell me where it says that God gives souls to machines!" I said, "You tell me where it says he doesn't!"
A demolition derby is perhaps the most humiliating and cruel way to die. It's like being stripped in front of hundreds of people, sick symbols and embarrassing names burned into your flesh, and then... forced to fight six other people to the death. It's just SICK.
/end rant.
For all the control circuitry it may have, a combine doesn't have a brain. My notion is that brain material serves as an interface for a soul. Without a brain the combine wouldn't have a soul.
However, I do understand your affinity to the combines, as I had for Carby (my dad's car from as young as I remember) a 1980-something Buick LeSabre, but it is a mechanical device and not a person or an animal. I felt bad when my dad's car died, but I felt worse when he died.
about the part about the car, my grandparents had a 1987 oldsmobile cutless, it had engine problems (knocking) loved the thing, (i was about 9 when we got it) the day some idiot cut a turn and caused a crash while i was passenger and my grandmother the driver, i cryed but i was not hurt but because of seeing a car i loved get damaged. the next day i started 6th grade.
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