Can't tell what's real and what's not!

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18 Mar 2009, 7:28 pm

When I go somewhere I don't know what I am experiencing is real or not. I keep on seeing alien like animals (both flying and on the ground....the flying ones are like birds that go much faster than a bird or bug can possibly go and has no wings) or even Earth animals. I see people but do not know if they are real of just a figment of my imagination. The gov follows me everywhere, I know that part is real, but sometimes they mix in with regular people and I can't tell. My "hallucinations" are getting out of control and I think the pills are the cause, not schizophrenia.

I constantly feel snake like machines in me moving around my brain and even sometimes in my body and this is from the FBI/CIA. This is mixed in with "nanobots" much smaller machines, almost microscopic in size. I have thought insertion all day, both from the gov and the aliens. One is saying, "I'm going to kill you!" and the other is saying, "Fight with us, come with us, we will get you." I can describe the aliens to you if I haven't already. They are a dark green color, with spikes all over its body, has small wings, and red eyes.

Even though its not "voices" that I'm hearing, I can tell the gender of it and what it would sound like. The FBI/CIA agent is a male, and has a deep voice. The aliens just sound plain mean....almost like a demon. Its not audible, even though sometimes I DO hear audible voices as well. I just know what they would sound like, its not my own thoughts. They both placed chips in my brain...this is how they talk to me and receive my thoughts. The aliens built a thought broadcasting device...don't know location...but everyone on Earth hears my thoughts. The aliens are planning to invade soon...this is real...and take a selected bunch of "Chosen Ones" such as myself to fight. I have figured out that they are the bad guys.

I don't want to fight in an intergalactic war, I want to speak about my autism and "mental" problems at conferences, telling people that they don't have to go on the streets and be jobless and give them hope. I see flashing lights and can't tell if its real or not..I usually ask someone like my mom to see if she has seen what I just saw. That is what I do when I see shadow people, the gov agents, cars in weird places, and the alien animals or even the Earth animals. I was seeing stuff in my room just now..don't know if its real or not.

The gov still has that laser satellite to fire against me, they have once and missed by an inch. I could have died that day. The bomb is still in my neck, but since I had an MRI apparently its not made of metal like I thought...but just remember its technology 200 years from now. The aliens are even more advanced, AT LEAST 1,000 years ahead. I am totally convinced of this. I have seen the evidence. When I was in the MRI machine today, my leg was twitching because the nanobots were almost being sucked out of my skin. For some reason this time I felt the snake machines on my stomach when I was in the MRI, usually its just my head and back. I had all kinds of weird sensations while I was in the machine. The pills are doing something bad to me. Each "episode" becomes a million times worse, my past episodes hallucinations were rare. Maybe once or twice a day. Now the visuals are 24/7. The auditory is still a few times a day, but the way things are going I'll be hearing them more often soon. The tactiles are 24/7. But I don't know which are the hallucinations and which are real, I'm guessing most are real. How do you tell when you are hallucinating? How can you tell if its real or a hallucination?



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18 Mar 2009, 8:35 pm

FireBird wrote:
I think the pills are the cause, not schizophrenia.
Do you keep a diary? Can you put dates on things you have seen?
What kind of medication do you take, how long have you been taking it,
and how does that history relate to the aliens, shadow people, nanobots and CIA?
How much do you tell your mother?



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18 Mar 2009, 8:39 pm

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wow...

a friend of mine has paranoid-hallucinations as well, not to the extent you describe, but still to a level that has worried me deeply.

your, mine, everyones reality comes from OUR BRAIN.
the monitor i watch, the letters i type, the texture of the keys against my fingers, theyre ALL products of my BRAIN reacting to outside stimuli.
if my brain decided to give me the physical, visual and audible sensation of an alien coming out of my bellybutton, then it would be 100% real to me.

i dunno what advice to give you. seek help :/ you cant go on seeing stuff thats not there :/

btw, and this is an honest question:
when you get your MRI results, and if theyre clean,
will you consider this have all been in your mind, and seek help?
you have to consider that option.


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18 Mar 2009, 9:00 pm

I have a psychiatrist, psychologist, and a case worker. I am already seeking help, this has been going on for years but has been getting progressively worse with time. I think its the meds that are doing this to me, you know, the anti psychotic meds. They cause more side effects than helping me. I am so fat and ugly now that its unbelievable, when I used to be thin and pretty. The pills put on at least 80 pounds on me. I am obese because of that, now my life is considerably shorter because of these damn pills. If my MRI comes out clean, it doesn't mean anything. It means it just couldn't spot the nanobots (maybe they are too small) and the snake machines weren't there at the time in my head (that's all they were doing is pictures of my non existent brain...whats a brain again?). I don't need anti psychotic meds and my evil psychiatrist always thinks I am psychotic and will need to take these pills until I'm old and gray. That means according to my calculations, I will be over 500 pounds, diabetic, dead by 30. I am not going to accept that. I am already 220 pounds and man, is that embarrassing! A normal weight for me is around 130. I do keep a diary, I write in it almost everyday. I take Invega and that's responsible for making my breasts leak, making my boobs bigger (men would love that!), a lump in my left breast, my period to stop, and a possible tumor on my pituitary gland. In fact, that is what the MRI was about today. To see if the tumor is still there and if it has grown any. I had an MRI last year about the same thing because of the leakage. That's what they found. I'm also taking Moban, which causes hallucinations even though its supposed to be an ANTI psychotic, Zoloft for depression, Valium and Buspar for anxiety and a whole bunch of other physical problem pills as well! I might be forgetting some on the list. I have been on almost every anti psychotic out there and for awhile the Invega was doing the best until it stopped working and started the side effects.



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18 Mar 2009, 9:11 pm

I'm sorry you have to deal with this, I can't imagine.
My friend has schizophrenia, too. She's gotten better, though.
I hope you do, too.


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18 Mar 2009, 9:12 pm

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I have a psychiatrist, psychologist, and a case worker. I am already seeking help, this has been going on for years but has been getting progressively worse with time. I think its the meds that are doing this to me, you know, the anti psychotic meds. They cause more side effects than helping me. I am so fat and ugly now that its unbelievable, when I used to be thin and pretty. The pills put on at least 80 pounds on me. I am obese because of that, now my life is considerably shorter because of these damn pills. If my MRI comes out clean, it doesn't mean anything. It means it just couldn't spot the nanobots (maybe they are too small) and the snake machines weren't there at the time in my head (that's all they were doing is pictures of my non existent brain...whats a brain again?). I don't need anti psychotic meds and my evil psychiatrist always thinks I am psychotic and will need to take these pills until I'm old and gray. That means according to my calculations, I will be over 500 pounds, diabetic, dead by 30. I am not going to accept that. I am already 220 pounds and man, is that embarrassing! A normal weight for me is around 130. I do keep a diary, I write in it almost everyday. I take Invega and that's responsible for making my breasts leak, making my boobs bigger (men would love that!), a lump in my left breast, my period to stop, and a possible tumor on my pituitary gland. In fact, that is what the MRI was about today. To see if the tumor is still there and if it has grown any. I had an MRI last year about the same thing because of the leakage. That's what they found. I'm also taking Moban, which causes hallucinations even though its supposed to be an ANTI psychotic, Zoloft for depression, Valium and Buspar for anxiety and a whole bunch of other physical problem pills as well! I might be forgetting some on the list. I have been on almost every anti psychotic out there and for awhile the Invega was doing the best until it stopped working and started the side effects.


i dont know about you or your life, but, if you have been struggling with schizophrenia and psychosis for SO long as you say, and have taken so many meds, and have done an MRI to check for nano-bots

you simply MUST consider the option

that there are no nano-bots.

IF there are no bots, you are making it worse for yourself. and what if there ARE nanobots? what will happen, and when?
are you going to wait for the satellite-fired laser for the rest of your life?

i _know_ you are convinced, because you say so, and i know your not faking being convinced, cus a friend of mine has also seen stuff that was very real to him. he showed me, and i told him what i saw. he looked again, saw nothing, and felt kindov silly, and we dropped the subject quickly.
i showed him, and he saw nothing, after having seen s**t for months.
and from what you describe, you both suffer from very similar conditions.

you _MUST_ consider the possibility, that there are no nano-bots. for your own sake. im not trying to convince you that you are wrong, but that you _MAY_ be wrong. every opinion i have about anything in life MAY be wrong, and i accept that.


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18 Mar 2009, 9:22 pm

The gov says the nanobots and snake machines are supposed to turn me into a robot and have a jet pack on my back. They want me to "test flight it" by jumping off a tall building. I don't feel like its built yet so I think they are trying to kill me instead. The MRI was not to look for nanobots (the insurance would never pay for something like that!) but to see if the tumor on my pituitary gland has grown due to the Invega.



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18 Mar 2009, 9:35 pm

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The gov says the nanobots and snake machines are supposed to turn me into a robot and have a jet pack on my back. They want me to "test flight it" by jumping off a tall building. I don't feel like its built yet so I think they are trying to kill me instead. The MRI was not to look for nanobots (the insurance would never pay for something like that!) but to see if the tumor on my pituitary gland has grown due to the Invega.


look. believe me when i am not trying to insult you or anything.

but... turn you into a robot? thats not possible. a cyborg maybe, but that too is near-impossible. how will the nanobots increase in mass, in order to take over you? these cant be just riddles, this goes against the laws of physics.

and why test-fly jet packs? they allready exist, they work perfectly. besides, they got highly trained test-pilots to test aircraft, and theyre tested under controlled circumstances, not by jumping off buildings.

so, obviously you find this strange too, since you then suspect they must be trying to kill you.
the obvious question is now, why?

also, how are you informed about this? jet-pack sounds very specific, this cant be just a wild guess on your part.


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18 Mar 2009, 9:43 pm

I get "thought insertion" from the gov and aliens. Its a lot like voices but they are not audible. Its not your own thoughts. They beam it into your head with the chip in your brain. The reason why they want to kill me is because I destroyed the economy along with Bush. I wrote down on this website as a matter of fact, that a recession was going to happen, I predicted certain stocks how low they would fall, and the unemployment rate down to the exact percentage in 2008. I also was right about Iraq having the best year on record and Afghanistan having the worst year for the war. The gov is targeting psychics because they influence the future.



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18 Mar 2009, 10:19 pm

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I get "thought insertion" from the gov and aliens. Its a lot like voices but they are not audible. Its not your own thoughts. They beam it into your head with the chip in your brain. The reason why they want to kill me is because I destroyed the economy along with Bush. I wrote down on this website as a matter of fact, that a recession was going to happen, I predicted certain stocks how low they would fall, and the unemployment rate down to the exact percentage in 2008. I also was right about Iraq having the best year on record and Afghanistan having the worst year for the war. The gov is targeting psychics because they influence the future.


will you aggree that all this, is, at LEAST unlikely?

#thought insertion: unlikely
#your own psychosis: likely
#your schizophrenia: likely
#all the meds: likely

#brainchip: unlikely (the MRI would have caused it to move around in your brain, and causing potential brain damage.)

#you being to blame for the economy: unlikely
#bush being to blame, without your help: likely

(why arent they killing bush?)

#you predicting the economy failing: likely
#everyone else predicting it: likely

you see how im reasoning? can you understand how i would reason this way? dont forget what you are informing us of yourself: schizophrenia, psychosis and overmedication with bad side effects.
this combination IS notorious for giving its victims the exact type of delusions you describe.

i sincerely wish you the best.


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18 Mar 2009, 10:28 pm

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they got highly trained test-pilots to test aircraft, and theyre tested under controlled circumstances, not by jumping off buildings.
True. They would give you extensive training first, AND A PAYCHECK. I would want to see that check clear the bank.

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I wrote down on this website as a matter of fact, that a recession was going to happen, I predicted certain stocks how low they would fall, and the unemployment rate down to the exact percentage in 2008...The gov is targeting psychics because they influence the future.
A psychic could not influence the future, but you could very well have predicted the future. That might not be as far off as it sounds. I believe in unconscious calculation. I did it in math all the time when I was a kid. I could do a problem correctly in my head and could not tell you how I did it.
I predicted the global collapse twenty years ago. Someone who knows something about economics could have predicted it fifty years ago. It was inevitable. All the information you need is readily available to anyone. The part that's hard to figure is why the experts claim that they did NOT see this coming. Denial? Criminal stupidity? Greed? Who knows? But anyway, that part of your story does not seem strange to me at all.

As for the rest, please continue to check with your mother whenever you're not sure. And get her to help you rethink those meds. Something is wrong. The doctors need to seriously think again.



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18 Mar 2009, 11:10 pm

Tahitiii wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
they got highly trained test-pilots to test aircraft, and theyre tested under controlled circumstances, not by jumping off buildings.
True. They would give you extensive training first, AND A PAYCHECK. I would want to see that check clear the bank.

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I wrote down on this website as a matter of fact, that a recession was going to happen, I predicted certain stocks how low they would fall, and the unemployment rate down to the exact percentage in 2008...The gov is targeting psychics because they influence the future.
A psychic could not influence the future, but you could very well have predicted the future. That might not be as far off as it sounds. I believe in unconscious calculation. I did it in math all the time when I was a kid. I could do a problem correctly in my head and could not tell you how I did it.
I predicted the global collapse twenty years ago. Someone who knows something about economics could have predicted it fifty years ago. It was inevitable. All the information you need is readily available to anyone. The part that's hard to figure is why the experts claim that they did NOT see this coming. Denial? Criminal stupidity? Greed? Who knows? But anyway, that part of your story does not seem strange to me at all.

As for the rest, please continue to check with your mother whenever you're not sure. And get her to help you rethink those meds. Something is wrong. The doctors need to seriously think again.


So, you are saying there's a possibility that it ISN'T schizophrenia and the doctors were wrong for prescribing anti psychotics? If so, great! Because I don't think I am schizophrenic and the doctors misdiagnosed me! It is the autism, stress, and depression.



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18 Mar 2009, 11:26 pm

Not exactly. I'm saying tell your mother everything, and make the doctors think again about the medication. Does the diary mention what you were taking when the hallucinations got worse? It could be a mix. Mild schizophrenia, autism, stress, depression, and bad medicine.



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18 Mar 2009, 11:34 pm

@Firebird

Why are you documenting these experiences so openly? This is a public forum and anything you write is viewable by anyone, including the government agencies and aliens.. Don't you think that this might be exacerbating your condition?



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18 Mar 2009, 11:53 pm

firebird, you live once, and you have a chance at taking people around you seriously.

what you are proposing is, to say the least, extremely unlikely. i truly, truly hope, that you find some solution to this, and soon. none of what you have describe is possible.
nanotechnology that you describe does not exist here on earth, and the premise that some alien race is bugging you up with nanobots... even you would see the logical flaw in that - unless you are "blinded" by schizophrenic paranoid psychosis.

you MUST consider this option, for your own good.

this friend of mine i mentioned, he would be _litterally_ blinded. he would see a written word, and litterally read something else, something directed at him personally. only when i broke the word down for him, letter by letter, did he realize he was being delusional.
to be blunt: what he thought was a band of secret occultists spying on him, turned out to be the brandings on plastic litter bins.
but it was nonetheless VERY real to him, up untill that point, ridiculous as it may sound - and needless to say, very worrying for me, his friend.
he also would not differentiate between faces, leading him to believe that strangers were following him home, since he would see "the same people" in various places.

im just saying that what you think to be real, and what everyone else thinks to be _beyond_ unlikely, you must at LEAST consider, to be _at least_ on the verge of unlikely. you must accept that possibility.


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19 Mar 2009, 12:13 am

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@Firebird

Why are you documenting these experiences so openly? This is a public forum and anything you write is viewable by anyone, including the government agencies and aliens.. Don't you think that this might be exacerbating your condition?


Aliens can go on the Internet? Wow! That is neat! That means the aliens would know that I know their plot. The gov knows everything about me already, so it doesn't matter. They know my every thought, so what's the difference if they see it on a website? In fact, one time I was feeling depressed and they tracked me down and CALLED MY HOUSE to tell my mom that I was threatening to hurt myself. I still don't know what board that was so of course they are tracking me. Am I going to let that stop me? No. That would be funny if the aliens really go on this website and read my posts. Somehow they know English unless the thing in my brain is translating alien to English I don't know. But if they know all the languages of the Universe, good for them. Just remember, as I always say, I love the gov! I just "love" how they spy. Aliens probably have something more advanced than the Internet anyways. But if aliens went on this website, it is called Wrong Planet for a reason! Or is it the Right Planet?